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US Coins, World Coins, and More => World and Ancient Coins, Conder tokens and medals => Topic started by: regandon on August 10, 2009, 06:13:30 PM
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These is the realm of the low mintage and most sought after super coins.
This small article is on World Coins.
Quite some time ago when I was just getting into collecting. I was always amazed at the coins that were never within my means. So, I write about them. Most collectors do not know that there were coins in circulation that were as large as 100mm being minted in Germany. That’s correct, 100mm. The design work on these coins are amazing. The Thalers (Taler) in circulation during the 17th and 18th century were not small coins by any means (40+mm). And, some of the Thalers from this time period fall into that super coin category. There are a small number of books wrote on these coins (most in German), and are of great value to own, as a good book is a must. If you can not afford these coins, at lest find on book on them if you’re a world coin collector.
These coins are collected by investors and coin collectors alike. Anyone that buy’s one of these super coins, will never have to worry about ever thinking if they made a bad choice. Now, there are many fakes on the market. Only buy one that’s has been looked at by an advanced collector, or that has been graded by a well trusted TPGS. I would recommend PCGS, NGC and ANACS only. As these companies have a very good knowledge base on these coins. I will say also, that I’ve never seen one of the 100mm Thalers in a slab.
On the other end of the spectrum, there is what I would call a series of coins that are super coins in there own right. These are my all time favorites, known as the Swiss Shooting Thalers of the mid to late 1800’s. The German Shooting Thalers from the same time period will also fit within this category. While these coins are more sought after by advanced collectors, these coins are affordable for the beginning collector that can spend $400 to $5,000+ dollars on one in mint state 65 and better. The mintage figures for these very sought after coins are from 1,000 to 30,000 pieces, and are not easy to find in MS-65 and above. The reason being, is that they are bought up very fast when one does hit the market. The other good thing I should mention, is do not overlook buying one in AU,($250 to $1,000) as the prices on these Shooting Thalers do not go down. The Shooting Thaler is a sleeper coin that the Advanced collectors have known about for some time. Now is the time to jump in and get a few while you can before the prices are out of reach.
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Wow, awesome write up and 100mm!!!! holey cow that must have been some interesting pocket change. A person could feel rich carrying around that much weight in a single coin. :D
I never knew these existed and now very interested in them.
I'm going to go on a quest to get one,Thanks.
Stefanie
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You dont see these except in the hands of pros. I have this page bookmarked.
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100 mm? Yikes!!! ??? You'd probably herniate yourself if you carried one of these in your pocket. Or at the very least have your pants fall down. ;D All kidding aside, that's an impressive size. The largest specimens I have are a 25 Leke proof from Albania 1968 (60 mm), and a 10 Kopek coin from Siberia 1777 (44 mm). I would love to see what a 100 mm specimen looks like. Thanks for the info 'regandon'.
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These large Talers have some very beautiful design work (Art work) on them. What I find very interesting, is that a coin 100mm in size is close to 4inches. This size gave the engraver a metal canvas to work on. Some of the designs are just outstanding. When you have one in your hand,..be it your first time or your thousandth time, you never want to put it down.
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These large Talers have some very beautiful design work (Art work) on them. What I find very interesting, is that a coin 100mm in size is close to 4inches. This size gave the engraver a metal canvas to work on. Some of the designs are just outstanding. When you have one in your hand,..be it your first time or your thousandth time, you never want to put it down.
Very true. Because of the planchet size, the designer has more options at their disposal and thus can add more detail. For example, this is the 60 mm Albanian coin I was mentioning in the last post. The detail on the reverse is beautiful with the sabre dancers, drummer, and mountains in the backdrop. I can only imagine how elaborate the design would be on 100 mm planchet.
(http://i706.photobucket.com/albums/ww65/samuraisedge/Albania25LekeProof1968.jpg)
ALBANIA (PEOPLES SOCIALIST REPUBLIC)~25 Leke 1968 <<PROOF>>
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Very nicw coin and I do like the rev. Here is one of my favorite German commemoratives with a large planchet.
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Very nicw coin and I do like the rev. Here is one of my favorite German commemoratives with a large planchet.
Yours is nice too, as always. These coins are always beautiful, and way more interesting than some of the coins made today. Too bad they don't try to put some more imagination into the contemporary pieces.
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These is the realm of the low mintage and most sought after super coins.
This small article is on World Coins.
Quite some time ago when I was just getting into collecting. I was always amazed at the coins that were never within my means. So, I write about them. Most collectors do not know that there were coins in circulation that were as large as 100mm being minted in Germany. That’s correct, 100mm. The design work on these coins are amazing. The Thalers (Taler) in circulation during the 17th and 18th century were not small coins by any means (40+mm). And, some of the Thalers from this time period fall into that super coin category. There are a small number of books wrote on these coins (most in German), and are of great value to own, as a good book is a must. If you can not afford these coins, at lest find on book on them if you’re a world coin collector.
These coins are collected by investors and coin collectors alike. Anyone that buy’s one of these super coins, will never have to worry about ever thinking if they made a bad choice. Now, there are many fakes on the market. Only buy one that’s has been looked at by an advanced collector, or that has been graded by a well trusted TPGS. I would recommend PCGS, NGC and ANACS only. As these companies have a very good knowledge base on these coins. I will say also, that I’ve never seen one of the 100mm Thalers in a slab.
On the other end of the spectrum, there is what I would call a series of coins that are super coins in there own right. These are my all time favorites, known as the Swiss Shooting Thalers of the mid to late 1800’s. The German Shooting Thalers from the same time period will also fit within this category. While these coins are more sought after by advanced collectors, these coins are affordable for the beginning collector that can spend $400 to $5,000+ dollars on one in mint state 65 and better. The mintage figures for these very sought after coins are from 1,000 to 30,000 pieces, and are not easy to find in MS-65 and above. The reason being, is that they are bought up very fast when one does hit the market. The other good thing I should mention, is do not overlook buying one in AU,($250 to $1,000) as the prices on these Shooting Thalers do not go down. The Shooting Thaler is a sleeper coin that the Advanced collectors have known about for some time. Now is the time to jump in and get a few while you can before the prices are out of reach.
I just received this month's edition of the ANA's Numismatist and they had this great article
in it that I thought to share :)
(http://i48.tinypic.com/154fv4w.jpg)
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The numistmatist is one of my favorite Mag's. The 4Taler I have which is like the coin in this article, is 75mm. These coins are true master pieces on metal.
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The numistmatist is one of my favorite Mag's. The 4Taler I have which is like the coin in this article, is 75mm. These coins are true master pieces on metal.
Yes, when I saw it.........I thought of you and your Taler :)
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Thank you very much Stefanie.
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Here is another interesting piece. This is 5 Dinara silver proof from the KINGDOM OF SERBIA & BOSNIA 1982. It commemorates the Obrenovic family in exile. I don't know all the details, but this seems to show the portrait of who was supposed to have been the current successor to the throne, Martsiano Obrenovic II (Exiled). The obverse shows Martsiano's profile and name in Cyrillic, next to Serbia's royal arms. The reverse shows four previous members of the Obrenovic family, Aleksander I, Milan II, Uro III (Exiled) Nikola II (Exiled). The mintage for this is low, but I don't know the exact figures.
[img width= height= alt=]http://coinsarefun.com/forum/MGalleryItem.php?id=133[/img]
SERBIA & BOSNIA (KINGDOM)~5 Dinara <Silver Proof> 1982
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"The mintage for this is low, but I don't know the exact figures."
The copper nickel alloy strike had a mintage of 100.
The silver proof strike had a mintage of 1,999.
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"The mintage for this is low, but I don't know the exact figures."
The copper nickel alloy strike had a mintage of 100.
The silver proof strike had a mintage of 1,999.
Thanks 'walmann'. I appreciate the info. :) It's rather curious why they made fewer issues of the copper-nickel variety as opposed to the silver variety. Interesting.
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Here are two remaining coins from the PEOPLES SOCIALIST REPUBLIC OF ALBANIA commemorating the national hero Skanderbeg. The first specimen is a 5 Leke silver proof with Skanderbeg's family arms. The secoond is a 10 Leke silver proof with Skanderbeg mounted on horseback. Both are dated 1968.
[img width= height= alt=]http://coinsarefun.com/forum/MGalleryItem.php?id=440[/img]
ALBANIA (PEOPLES SOCIALIST REPUBLIC)~5 Leke 1968 <PROOF>
[img width= height= alt=]http://coinsarefun.com/forum/MGalleryItem.php?id=439[/img]
ALBANIA (PEOPLES SOCIALIST REPUBLIC)~10 Leke 1968 <PROOF>
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You have some very nice coins Zantesuken.
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You have some very nice coins Zantesuken.
Thanks 'regandon'. All three (5,10, and 25 Leke) came as a set in a red vinal case with certificate and minting details. Ironically, these were minted the year I was born.
~Daniel
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Do you have a photo of the 25 Leke?
Curious as to what that one looks like.
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Do you have a photo of the 25 Leke?
Curious as to what that one looks like.
Hi 'walmann'. It's on page 1 of this thread, response # 5.
~Daniel
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100 mm...that's amazing. I wonder how heavy it was? I imagine much larger and it would have felt like you were spending a small dinner plate!