Post by: FilthyBroke on September 14, 2009, 12:19:22 PM
How about showing off your new purchases, and put 'em up here first!
I'll start! This one just came this morning, remember that you saw it here first! ;)
(updated pic, finally pleased with the results)
France - 1625 , Silver jeton (info from seller)
Post by: Zantetsuken on September 14, 2009, 07:12:27 PM
(http://i706.photobucket.com/albums/ww65/samuraisedge/ArmavirMunicipal3Ruble1918.jpg)
ARMAVIR~3 Ruble (Type 2) 1918
(http://i706.photobucket.com/albums/ww65/samuraisedge/SERBIANEMPIREARHorsebackDinar1346-1355AD.jpg)
SERBIAN EMPIRE~AR Dinar (Horseback) 1346-1355 AD
Post by: Rigos_Place on September 16, 2009, 03:32:08 PM
www.rigosplace.com (http://www.rigosplace.com)
Post by: coinsarefun on September 18, 2009, 12:08:18 PM
How about showing off your new purchases, and put 'em up here first!
I'll start! This one just came this morning, remember that you saw it here first! ;)
(updated pic, finally pleased with the results)
Absolutely beautiful 8)
France - 1625 , Silver jeton (info from seller)
Post by: coinsarefun on September 18, 2009, 12:11:19 PM
1913 Nicholas II Romanov Dynasty Rouble MS64 old ANACS holder
(http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u312/coinarefun/64003c5b.jpg)
1855 Nicholas I silver 10 Kopecks MS64 NGC
(http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u312/coinarefun/0013e7be.jpg)
Post by: FilthyBroke on September 19, 2009, 10:19:25 AM
Post by: Zantetsuken on September 23, 2009, 10:44:14 PM
(http://i706.photobucket.com/albums/ww65/samuraisedge/ThorunMunicipalHalfGroschen1447-1492AD.jpg)
THORUN/TORUN (MUNICIPAL)~1/2 Groschen 1447-1492 AD
Post by: FilthyBroke on September 25, 2009, 09:38:02 AM
Post by: FilthyBroke on September 26, 2009, 11:48:09 AM
Here's a new one, remember you saw it here first! ;D
(http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc184/Sallythedog/DSC00002-Copy-Copy.jpg)
Post by: FilthyBroke on October 04, 2009, 06:10:45 PM
(http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc184/Sallythedog/DSC00568-Copy-Copy.jpg)
Post by: regandon on October 04, 2009, 07:02:39 PM
Post by: Zantetsuken on October 06, 2009, 01:14:14 AM
I just got this German 1913 2 Mark Pattern, and this 1786 Bavarian Taler.
Nice specimens as usual 'regandon'. You have quite a beautiful collection of German State and Regional coins. Here is my newest aquisition, a billon Denier from the Despotate of Epirus (1294-1313) AD. This was a territory in the southern Balkans. I will also be posting this in the Medieval Balkan thread with a bit more detail.
(http://i706.photobucket.com/albums/ww65/samuraisedge/EPIRUSDESPOTATEBillonDenar1294-1313AD.jpg)
EPIRUS (DESPOTATE)~Billon Denier 1294-1313 AD
Post by: regandon on October 06, 2009, 06:15:52 AM
Post by: FilthyBroke on October 06, 2009, 12:43:44 PM
Zantetsuken, you're collection of hammered coins falls right in my area(medieval) of interest. Cool stuff! I am focusing on England with mine right now, but Spain and France could be next.
Post by: Zantetsuken on October 07, 2009, 01:44:03 AM
(http://i706.photobucket.com/albums/ww65/samuraisedge/BohemiaDuchyARDenar1061-1086AD.jpg)
BOHEMIA (DUCHY)~AR Denar 1061-1086 AD
(http://i706.photobucket.com/albums/ww65/samuraisedge/KHWAREZMSOVIETPEOPLESREPUBLIC500Ruble1340AH1922AD.jpg)
KHWAREZM SOVIET PEOPLES REPUBLIC~500 Ruble 1340 AH/1922 AD
Post by: Zantetsuken on October 10, 2009, 06:00:22 PM
(http://i706.photobucket.com/albums/ww65/samuraisedge/WallachiaAEBani1429-1435AD.jpg)
WALLACHIA~AE Bani 1429-1435 AD?
(http://i706.photobucket.com/albums/ww65/samuraisedge/RussianEmpire5Kopek1767.jpg)
RUSSIAN EMPIRE~5 Kopek 1767
(http://i706.photobucket.com/albums/ww65/samuraisedge/HungaryRevolution6Krajczar1849.jpg)
HUNGARY (REVOLUTION)~6 Krajczar 1849
Post by: coinsarefun on October 10, 2009, 08:14:15 PM
Very, very nice!
Post by: Zantetsuken on October 31, 2009, 11:23:50 PM
Post by: Zohar444 on November 01, 2009, 09:30:17 PM
WOW.
Post by: FilthyBroke on November 02, 2009, 11:35:46 AM
FilthyBroke - these are awesome!!!
WOW.
Thanks, I appreciate the compliment! :) Welcome to the CoinsAreFun boards, too! Nice crowd that hangs out here, I think you'll enjoy it.
Post by: FilthyBroke on November 12, 2009, 11:39:06 AM
Charles I / James I
(http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc184/Sallythedog/DSC00700-Copy.jpg)
**updated for a little better pic.
Post by: coinsarefun on November 12, 2009, 11:40:02 AM
Nice :2Beer;
Post by: FilthyBroke on November 12, 2009, 11:44:30 AM
Post by: coinsarefun on November 12, 2009, 11:45:55 AM
Post by: FilthyBroke on November 12, 2009, 11:57:24 AM
***I should add that it's gold gilded, and dates somewhere between 1611 and 1625. I haven't been able to lock down the specific date yet.
Post by: Zantetsuken on November 21, 2009, 07:31:56 PM
(http://i706.photobucket.com/albums/ww65/samuraisedge/CZECHOSLOVAKIA_REPUBLIC_1_Dukat_1926.jpg)
CZECHOSLOVAKIA (REPUBLIC)~1 Dukat 1926
Post by: regandon on November 22, 2009, 03:43:35 AM
Here's a beauty that I picked up today. This is a 1 Dukat from CZECHOSLOVAKIA (REPUBLIC) dated 1926. One of the very few gold coins in my collection.
(http://i706.photobucket.com/albums/ww65/samuraisedge/Czechoslovakia1Dukat1926.jpg)
CZECHOSLOVAKIA (REPUBLIC)~1 Dukat 1926
Very nice
Post by: Zantetsuken on November 23, 2009, 08:37:33 PM
Here's a new English jeton-
Charles I / James I
(http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc184/Sallythedog/DSC00700-Copy.jpg)
**updated for a little better pic.
Nice jetton. I don't really know anything about therse, but the pattern is certainly is beautiful. Thanks for sharing.
~Daniel.
Post by: Zantetsuken on November 23, 2009, 08:50:04 PM
(http://i706.photobucket.com/albums/ww65/samuraisedge/SerbiaKingdomARDinar1321-1331AD.jpg)
SERBIA (KINGDOM)~AR Dinar 1321-1331 AD
Post by: Zantetsuken on November 27, 2009, 07:47:14 PM
(http://i706.photobucket.com/albums/ww65/samuraisedge/Malta10Grani1786-1.jpg)
MALTA~10 Grani 1786
Post by: FilthyBroke on November 30, 2009, 12:39:12 PM
Here's a new token, but I have little information on it as of yet. If anyone can find details on it, I'd appreciate it!
(http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc184/Sallythedog/DSC00897-Copy.jpg)
Post by: FilthyBroke on November 30, 2009, 12:54:21 PM
And here's the other one I got today, another French jeton-
(http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc184/Sallythedog/DSC008872.jpg)
Post by: coinsarefun on November 30, 2009, 01:04:46 PM
Post by: walmann on November 30, 2009, 01:43:46 PM
Yet, another great jeton.
Post by: Zantetsuken on December 04, 2009, 10:00:22 PM
And here's the other one I got today, another French jeton-
(http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc184/Sallythedog/DSC008872.jpg)
What's not to love about this one. Such an awesome specimen. Beautiful toning and detail. This is quite a catch. :ThumbsUp;
Post by: Zantetsuken on December 04, 2009, 10:12:54 PM
(http://i706.photobucket.com/albums/ww65/samuraisedge/FinlandCivilWar5Pennia1918.jpg)
FINLAND (CIVIL WAR)~5 Pennia 1918
Post by: FilthyBroke on December 16, 2009, 01:10:37 PM
(http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc184/Sallythedog/DSC010272.jpg)
(http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc184/Sallythedog/1618-Francejeton.jpg)
Post by: regandon on December 16, 2009, 02:37:07 PM
I just got this Brunswick 2 Taler commemorative. It commemorates the 25th year of regin. Mintage of 17,000. It is on it way with three other coins to NGC.
Post by: FilthyBroke on December 16, 2009, 02:59:27 PM
I sure enjoy all of the photos here, and the gallery is great!! Please keep up the good work, guys!
Post by: coinsarefun on December 16, 2009, 09:25:35 PM
(http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc184/Sallythedog/1618-Francejeton.jpg)
Post by: Larry on December 17, 2009, 05:12:24 PM
I suppose I'm partial to mermaids... LOL
Post by: FilthyBroke on January 16, 2010, 06:04:00 PM
(http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc184/Sallythedog/DSC07595.jpg)
Post by: Zantetsuken on January 16, 2010, 07:33:30 PM
I stopped by our weekend show and pick this one up, just because.:)
(http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc184/Sallythedog/DSC07595.jpg)
Nice piece 'Filthybroke'. Attractive toning too. Thanks for sharing.
~Daniel
Post by: coinsarefun on January 16, 2010, 07:36:00 PM
(http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u312/coinarefun/Darkside/verycool.jpg)
Post by: Zantetsuken on January 16, 2010, 07:53:26 PM
(http://i706.photobucket.com/albums/ww65/samuraisedge/Bukhara3Tenge1336AH1917AH.jpg)
BUKHARA (EMIRATE)~ 3 Tenge 1336 AH/1917 AD
Post by: coinsarefun on January 16, 2010, 08:01:57 PM
Interesting error coin Stefanie. Here is a specimen that I picked up in the last couple of weeks. This a 3 Tenge coin from the EMIRATE OF BUKHARA dated 1336 AH/1917 AD. This is an exceptional specimen for a coin that usually found with weak and off-centered striking.
BUKHARA (EMIRATE)~ 3 Tenge 1336 AH/1917 AD
I have never really studied or collected ancients but I must say that every time I see these particular ones, the ones with a great strong strike and high grade of preservation it amazes me!!!
Nice one Zantetsuken :ThumbsUp; :ThumbsUp;
Post by: Zantetsuken on January 16, 2010, 08:08:36 PM
Nice one Zantetsuken :ThumbsUp; :ThumbsUp;
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You'd think this would be an ancient coin, wouldn't you? But actually, it was only minted within the last century. The crude minting methods do have a tendency to deceive people as to the actual age of certain coins such as this one. I'm glad you like it.
~Daniel
Post by: Zantetsuken on January 20, 2010, 08:51:03 PM
(http://i706.photobucket.com/albums/ww65/samuraisedge/LITHUANIAGRANDDUCHYARDenar1392-1430ADjpg.jpg)
LITHUANIA (GRAND DUCHY)~ AR Denar 1392-1430 AD
Post by: Zantetsuken on January 23, 2010, 05:53:52 PM
(http://i706.photobucket.com/albums/ww65/samuraisedge/SerbianEmpire5LineDinar1346-1355AD-1.jpg)
SERBIAN EMPIRE~5 Line Dinar 1346-1355 AD
Post by: FilthyBroke on January 25, 2010, 09:23:48 PM
Here is a rare specimen I received in the mail today. This is silver 5 Line Dinar from the SERBIAN EMPIRE dating from 1346-1355 AD. It was issued under the reign of Tsar: Stefan Uros IV~Dusan.
(http://i706.photobucket.com/albums/ww65/samuraisedge/SerbianEmpire5LineDinar1346-1355AD.jpg)
SERBIAN EMPIRE~5 Line Dinar 1346-1355 AD
I recognize the 'Christ seated' reverse from earlier similar Byzantine pieces, but I wonder what the lettering says on the obverse?
Post by: Zantetsuken on January 25, 2010, 09:36:46 PM
Here is a rare specimen I received in the mail today. This is silver 5 Line Dinar from the SERBIAN EMPIRE dating from 1346-1355 AD. It was issued under the reign of Tsar: Stefan Uros IV~Dusan.
(http://i706.photobucket.com/albums/ww65/samuraisedge/SerbianEmpire5LineDinar1346-1355AD.jpg)
SERBIAN EMPIRE~5 Line Dinar 1346-1355 AD
I recognize the 'Christ seated' reverse from earlier similar Byzantine pieces, but I wonder what the lettering says on the obverse?
Hi 'FilthyBroke'. The legend basically translates 'STEFAN IN CHRIST OUR LORD PIOUS TSAR'.
Post by: BCNumismatics on January 25, 2010, 09:43:56 PM
That's a very nice Serbian silver Dinar that you have got there.
Aidan.
Post by: Zantetsuken on January 25, 2010, 09:53:13 PM
Daniel,
That's a very nice Serbian silver Dinar that you have got there.
Aidan.
Thanks 'Aidan'. This is an earlier imperial issue that was minted under Stefan Dusan right after he was crowned tsar of Serbia in 1346 AD.
Post by: FilthyBroke on January 26, 2010, 07:09:10 AM
Hi 'FilthyBroke'. The legend basically translates 'STEFAN IN CHRIST OUR LORD PIOUS TSAR'.
Thanks, I should have figured that it was something like that. :)
Post by: FilthyBroke on January 28, 2010, 11:11:34 AM
(http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc184/Sallythedog/DSC07642.jpg)
Still working on getting a good flat picture of this one, shooting at an angle is giving it a distorted look.
Post by: Zantetsuken on January 28, 2010, 11:23:21 AM
This just in.... ;D
(http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc184/Sallythedog/DSC07642.jpg)
Still working on getting a good flat picture of this one, shooting at an angle is giving it a distorted look.
Looks great to me 'Filthybroke'. You captured the design and toning very nicely. Thank for sharing. :ThumbsUp;
~Daniel
Post by: FilthyBroke on January 28, 2010, 11:28:17 AM
Post by: Swampboy on January 30, 2010, 12:15:01 PM
:Beatingheart;
WTG, William.
Post by: FilthyBroke on January 30, 2010, 02:10:01 PM
I repeat.
:Beatingheart;
WTG, William.
Thanks! :) Good to see you over here, welcome aboard! :Welcome;
Post by: BCNumismatics on January 31, 2010, 01:46:20 AM
I repeat.
:Beatingheart;
WTG, William.
Welcome aboard!
What banknotes &/or coins are you interested in collecting?
Aidan.
Post by: coinsarefun on January 31, 2010, 06:59:45 PM
I repeat.
:Beatingheart;
WTG, William.
Swampboy......!!! glad to see you here :Welcome;
Post by: Zantetsuken on January 31, 2010, 08:07:19 PM
~Daniel
Post by: Zantetsuken on January 31, 2010, 08:33:14 PM
(http://i706.photobucket.com/albums/ww65/samuraisedge/World%20Paper%20Money/BukharaSoviet100Ruble1339AH1920AD.jpg)
BUKHARA SOVIET PEOPLES REPUBLIC~100 Ruble 1338 AH/1920 AD
Post by: BCNumismatics on January 31, 2010, 08:44:40 PM
That is one very nice note that you've got there.
There is going to be a new gallery opening up on http://www.uscoininfo.com (http://www.uscoininfo.com) during this week.
Yes,it will be like http://www.zeno.ru (http://www.zeno.ru) to a certain degree,but you will be able to upload photos of all world banknotes,coins,currency tokens,& postal orders onto it.
I will most definitely be contributing to it as well.
Aidan.
Post by: Zantetsuken on February 05, 2010, 08:21:56 AM
(http://i706.photobucket.com/albums/ww65/samuraisedge/GEORGIA1Bisti1787.jpg)
GEORGIA (RUSSIAN PROTECTORATE)~1 Bisti 1787
Post by: BCNumismatics on February 05, 2010, 07:17:30 PM
That's a very nice Georgian coin that you've got there.
You should take a look at http://www.coins.ge (http://www.coins.ge) & get in touch with the Georgian guy who runs it.
Aidan.
Post by: Zantetsuken on February 05, 2010, 08:40:02 PM
Daniel,
That's a very nice Georgian coin that you've got there.
You should take a look at http://www.coins.ge (http://www.coins.ge) & get in touch with the Georgian guy who runs it.
Aidan.
Thanks for the tip Aidan. I've been to this site before. It's very interesting, and is really the only site that specializes in Georgian numismatics. I'll be sure to check it out.
~Daniel
Post by: cpm9ball on February 06, 2010, 06:41:44 PM
How about showing off your new purchases, and put 'em up here first!
I'll start! This one just came this morning, remember that you saw it here first! ;)
(updated pic, finally pleased with the results)
France - 1625 , Silver jeton (info from seller)
(http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc184/Sallythedog/DSC09935-1.jpg)
Well, what do you know about that! I just received the latest addition to my resource library yesterday after waiting more than three weeks for its arrival - Jetons, Medalets & Tokens: The Low Countries and France, Volume Twoby Michael Mitchiner.
I found the listing for yours rather quickly because the book provides an index of quotations as a cross-reference.........QUO SYDERE TUTIOR :
Composition: Silver
620gms
27-1/2mm
Mintage: Approximately 10,000 - 9,000+ for the initial release in January - 900 for the August distribution
Congratulations, Filthy, she's a beauty!
Chris
PS. The photo specimen used in the book is EF at best.
Post by: FilthyBroke on February 06, 2010, 07:09:17 PM
I appreciate the help!
Post by: FilthyBroke on February 06, 2010, 07:11:53 PM
Post by: cpm9ball on February 06, 2010, 07:37:35 PM
Oh, and how would mine grade against the EF in the guide? Just curious, I'm pretty sure the seller had mine listed as EF, too.
I'm no specialist on these, so if you quote me, I'll deny everything. :LOL;
Yours is much, much nicer. XF!
Post by: FilthyBroke on February 06, 2010, 07:42:58 PM
Post by: BCNumismatics on February 07, 2010, 06:58:49 AM
Thanks. :) If I can recall it, the seller's grading scale goes - P, G, F, VF, EF, MS, and UNC. Is this the common grading scale for non-U.S. coins? The seven-point scale I think I heard it called....
FilthyBroke,
'MS' isn't part of the 7 point grading scale,as that is what the slabbers use.I hate the grade 'BU',as it is next to impossible to find a coin strictly in 'BU' grade.
We use 'G','VG','F','VF','EF','Unc.',& both 'Proof-like' & 'Proof',even though both 'Proof-like' & 'Proof' aren't strictly speaking grades,but methods of striking.Yes,we don't use numbers to confuse people or to rip people off.
Aidan.
Post by: FilthyBroke on February 07, 2010, 07:15:05 AM
Thanks. :) If I can recall it, the seller's grading scale goes - P, G, F, VF, EF, MS, and UNC. Is this the common grading scale for non-U.S. coins? The seven-point scale I think I heard it called....
FilthyBroke,
'MS' isn't part of the 7 point grading scale,as that is what the slabbers use.I hate the grade 'BU',as it is next to impossible to find a coin strictly in 'BU' grade.
We use 'G','VG','F','VF','EF','Unc.',& both 'Proof-like' & 'Proof',even though both 'Proof-like' & 'Proof' aren't strictly speaking grades,but methods of striking.Yes,we don't use numbers to confuse people or to rip people off.
Aidan.
Well, this seller must have put their own twist on it, or are using a different standard, because those are the grades that they use. Now, I've seen several different methods, and it gets confusing to shop the U.K. and France from here in the U.S. as each seem to vary int heir grading. This is why I need a good picture of the item before considering a purchase.
Oh, and I don't believe that numbers are there to rip people off or confuse them, but more often it's the people using them to their advantage vs. a buyer's knowledge and experience. That's why I'm here, to learn and absorb the knowledge and experiences of others. :)
Now let's see more more World Premieres!! I have one at the Post Office that I missed on Saturday, hope I can pick it up Monday and post pics.
Post by: FilthyBroke on February 08, 2010, 09:05:37 AM
James I gold hammered quarter laurel -
(http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc184/Sallythedog/1620-21JamesIquarterlaurel2.jpg)
Post by: cpm9ball on February 08, 2010, 10:09:24 AM
Thanks. :) If I can recall it, the seller's grading scale goes - P, G, F, VF, EF, MS, and UNC. Is this the common grading scale for non-U.S. coins? The seven-point scale I think I heard it called....
FilthyBroke,
'MS' isn't part of the 7 point grading scale,as that is what the slabbers use.I hate the grade 'BU',as it is next to impossible to find a coin strictly in 'BU' grade.
We use 'G','VG','F','VF','EF','Unc.',& both 'Proof-like' & 'Proof',even though both 'Proof-like' & 'Proof' aren't strictly speaking grades,but methods of striking.Yes,we don't use numbers to confuse people or to rip people off.
Aidan.
Aidan, you forgot P - Poor and AU - Almost Uncirculated. In the US, MS & UNC are used interchangeably, but when a TPGS assigns a numerical grade to a coin, it is always expressed as MSxx.
Chris
Post by: regandon on February 08, 2010, 08:52:48 PM
And here it is -
James I gold hammered quarter laurel -
(http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc184/Sallythedog/1620-21JamesIquarterlaurel2.jpg)
Very nice strike on that one.
Post by: BCNumismatics on February 09, 2010, 02:27:55 AM
That's one very nice piece of hammered English gold that you've got there.
English (as opposed to British) gold coins are very difficult to find,but not as difficult to find as Scots hammered gold coins are.
Yes,I do collect British Isles coins myself.
Chris,we never use 'Poor' as a grade over here in New Zealand,but 'AU' is only ever occasionally used.
What angers me about Krause sometimes,is when they give prices only in 'Unc.' &/or 'BU',but not in 'VF' downwards,it makes it impossible to work out prices when coins in the lower grades turn up.The classic case of this is with the American commemorative $1/2 from 1892 to 1954.We occasionally see the Columbian Exposition commemorative $1/2 over here,& in the bottom grades.
Aidan.
Post by: cpm9ball on February 09, 2010, 08:22:53 AM
FilthyBroke,
That's one very nice piece of hammered English gold that you've got there.
English (as opposed to British) gold coins are very difficult to find,but not as difficult to find as Scots hammered gold coins are.
Yes,I do collect British Isles coins myself.
Chris,we never use 'Poor' as a grade over here in New Zealand,but 'AU' is only ever occasionally used.
What angers me about Krause sometimes,is when they give prices only in 'Unc.' &/or 'BU',but not in 'VF' downwards,it makes it impossible to work out prices when coins in the lower grades turn up.The classic case of this is with the American commemorative $1/2 from 1892 to 1954.We occasionally see the Columbian Exposition commemorative $1/2 over here,& in the bottom grades.
Aidan.
Aidan, you must keep in mind that if Krause tried to list the entire range of grades, the book would probably be three times larger than it is, and it's big enough already.
I have access to Numismedia values through NGC, so any time you need some prices, send me a message.
Chris
Post by: FilthyBroke on February 13, 2010, 01:39:02 PM
Yep, here's two more that just arrived -
First, a little color on this 1860-79 silver jeton (I'll work on the pics)
(http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc184/Sallythedog/DSC07883.jpg)
Next, a resrike of a 1655 jeton, I believe this one was made in the mid-1850's, maybe as an anniverasary issue?
(http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc184/Sallythedog/DSC07894.jpg)
Post by: cpm9ball on February 13, 2010, 02:26:46 PM
Don't forget that there is a cross-reference for captions in the back.
Chris
Post by: FilthyBroke on February 13, 2010, 02:41:15 PM
Now that you have your Mitchiner book, you're supposed to include all of the details including the page you found it on. :Lame; :LOL;
Don't forget that there is a cross-reference for captions in the back.
Chris
I like to keep it simple. :D
It could take some time to figure this thing out, but I do intend to add info on each as I get it researched. There's even a price guide of sorts in the back, at least in the sense that I can get an idea of comparative values. Neat stuff!
Post by: Zantetsuken on February 23, 2010, 07:22:02 PM
(http://i706.photobucket.com/albums/ww65/samuraisedge/SerbianEmpireHelmDinar1355-1371ADTy.jpg)
SERBIAN EMPIRE~AR Helm Dinar (Type 2) 1355-1371 AD
(http://i706.photobucket.com/albums/ww65/samuraisedge/SerbianEmpireDinar1371-1389ADTypeI.jpg)
SERBIAN EMPIRE~AR Dinar (Type 1) 1371-1389 AD
(http://i706.photobucket.com/albums/ww65/samuraisedge/SerbianEmpireDinar1371-1389ADTypeII.jpg)
SERBIAN EMPIRE~AR Dinar (Type 2) 1371-1389 AD
(http://i706.photobucket.com/albums/ww65/samuraisedge/SerbiaDinarPostHumous1371-1389AD.jpg)
SERBIA~AR Dinar (Posthumous) 1371-1389 AD
(http://i706.photobucket.com/albums/ww65/samuraisedge/SerbiaARReducedDinar1371-1395AD.jpg)
SERBIA~AR Reduced Dinar 1371-1395 AD
Post by: FilthyBroke on February 26, 2010, 12:22:13 PM
(http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc184/Sallythedog/1838Francejeton.jpg)
(http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc184/Sallythedog/DSC08126-Copy.jpg)
(http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc184/Sallythedog/1838Francejeton2.jpg)
Post by: Zantetsuken on February 26, 2010, 07:12:59 PM
~Daniel
Post by: coinsarefun on February 27, 2010, 11:31:04 AM
(http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc184/Sallythedog/1838Francejeton2.jpg)
Post by: FilthyBroke on February 27, 2010, 12:11:15 PM
Thanks, all! :) Stefanie, that one is not all that uncommon as far as rarity but the toning I just couldn't pass up. And it's pretty hefty, one of the larger jetons that I've come across at 36.5mm.
I have a few more coming in next week, I'll post them when they arrive.
Post by: FilthyBroke on March 03, 2010, 11:22:05 AM
(http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc184/Sallythedog/sdFrancejeton3.jpg)
Post by: cpm9ball on March 03, 2010, 04:09:10 PM
Chris
Post by: FilthyBroke on March 03, 2010, 05:09:00 PM
Very nice, FB! The beehive is sometimes seen on various French medals since a bee was used as a mintmark from 1860-1880, but this doesn't appear to be French. Can you give us any background on it?
Chris
You're gonna make me work for this, I see. ;)
Here's what I have on this one-
Metal: silver
Die orientation: 6h.
Specs: 30mm, 9.0 gm. (Pg 1278 Mitchiner)
Catalog references: F.9204
Obverse legend: Utile Dulci
Obverse Description: A hive surrounded by tulips, roses and flowers, with its swarm.
Obverse translation: Useful what is sweet.
Reverse legend: SOCIETAS Scientiarum ARTIUM Burdigalensis AND AN VI.
Reverse Description: Registration of four lines. Below, two palms.
Reverse translation: SOCIETY OF SCIENCE AND AN ART OF BORDEAUX VI.
Additional Information: This token is available with plain edge and punch Bow. Originally, it was the Royal Society ... thence in the Year VI, this term has disappeared.
That's from the seller's listing and Mitchiner's book. It dates 1797-98 according to Mitchiner, and I think that the Feuardant number is 9204, not 9205 as listed. So it is French, or so it's listed under French jetons. I'm not sure what "burdigalensis" means, unless it's some sort of translation for Bordeaux. Also, what is punch bow? The crazy Google translator is messing with me again....Any ideas?
Post by: cpm9ball on March 03, 2010, 05:59:37 PM
http://www.catholic-hierarchy.org/diocese/dbord.html (http://www.catholic-hierarchy.org/diocese/dbord.html)
Apparently, Burdigalensis is the Latin name for the Archdiocese of Bordeaux.
I'm not sure what "punch Bow" means either. Is there any marking on the edge? I'll see if I can find something about it.
The beehive design makes me curious about the origins of the "bee" different that was used some 60 years later. For others, here, who may not be familiar with the Monnaie de Paris, the mintmark is commonly referred to as a "Different".
Thanks for taking the time. It's always interesting to learn new things.
Chris
Post by: FilthyBroke on March 03, 2010, 06:34:54 PM
Perhaps this will help.
http://www.catholic-hierarchy.org/diocese/dbord.html (http://www.catholic-hierarchy.org/diocese/dbord.html)
Apparently, Burdigalensis is the Latin name for the Archdiocese of Bordeaux.
I'm not sure what "punch Bow" means either. Is there any marking on the edge? I'll see if I can find something about it.
The beehive design makes me curious about the origins of the "bee" different that was used some 60 years later. For others, here, who may not be familiar with the Monnaie de Paris, the mintmark is commonly referred to as a "Different".
The edge is reeded, so no stamps or anything there. I'm glad you found info on Burdigalensis, I had no idea about that one....kept coming up with a type of fish when I did a Google search. The "beehive" seems to have been a common theme since the late 1600's on jetons, but this one was so detailed that it just caught my eye. My picture doesn't really do it justice, I'll work on it.
Anyway, you can get an idea as to what I'm up against when researching these things. I accumulate faster than I seem to be able to research. Oh well, I have all the time in the world for research, and I have to grab what I can when I can (if you know what I mean). ;)
Post by: cpm9ball on March 03, 2010, 06:43:35 PM
Chris
Post by: FilthyBroke on March 03, 2010, 08:15:48 PM
So, we know that it was available with a plain edge and a reeded edge (like yours). Is it possible that "punch Bow" referred to another edge design where a Bow was impressed into the surrounding edge? (similar to the Presidential dollars)
Chris
That's a possibility. I need to look and see if I can find a list of the stamps used for edge marking. There is so little info outside of the few reference books. There also is supposed to have been a publication that included all jetons minted for each year, kind of a catalog showing upcoming releases. Now that would be interesting to page through. I think d'Affry had access to these when cataloging jetons, I could be mistaken though. There was a reference somewhere in Mitchiner's book about that, if I can find it again I will double-check that.
Post by: Zantetsuken on March 03, 2010, 10:53:37 PM
(http://i706.photobucket.com/albums/ww65/samuraisedge/NWRussiaBaltics1Kopek1916.jpg)
NORTH-WEST RUSSIA & THE BALTICS~1 Kopek 1916 J
Post by: Billy Kingsley on March 04, 2010, 10:00:53 AM
I have not imaged it yet but my latest new purchase is a Brazil 1901 100 Reis, which I found at an antique shop.
Post by: Zantetsuken on March 04, 2010, 10:23:35 AM
Great new addition Daniel. Iron is tough!
I have not imaged it yet but my latest new purchase is a Brazil 1901 100 Reis, which I found at an antique shop.
Exactly. I have a couple other coins made of iron that are either heavily toned or rusted. That's why I was surprised to see such a beautiful specimen of this. By the way, congrats on your find. We'd like to see it soon. :ThumbsUp;
~Daniel
Post by: Zantetsuken on March 06, 2010, 08:58:29 PM
(http://i706.photobucket.com/albums/ww65/samuraisedge/BosniaKingdomARDinar1461-1463AD.jpg)
BOSNIA (KINGDOM)~AR Dinar 1461-1463 AD
Post by: FilthyBroke on March 08, 2010, 01:46:32 PM
Oh, and here are a few new ones-
This one is my favorite, even though it's condition isn't very good-
(http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc184/Sallythedog/1750Francejeton-Copy.jpg)
(http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc184/Sallythedog/1782-83Francejeton.jpg)
(http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc184/Sallythedog/1830Francejeton.jpg)
(http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc184/Sallythedog/1784over68Francejeton.jpg)
Post by: Zantetsuken on March 08, 2010, 06:54:03 PM
~Daniel
Post by: BCNumismatics on March 08, 2010, 07:12:04 PM
Here's one I picked up at a coin show last weekend. This is 1 Kopek for NORTH-WEST RUSSIA & THE BALTICS dated 1916 J, minted in Hamburg. This was issued for the eastern front during World War I by the German imperial army for North-West Russia, Poland and the Baltics. While the coin itself isn't especially rare, it is difficult to find these coins in high grade with luster due to them being made of iron.
(http://i706.photobucket.com/albums/ww65/samuraisedge/NWRussiaBaltics1Kopek1916.jpg)
NORTH-WEST RUSSIA & THE BALTICS~1 Kopek 1916 J
Daniel,
These coins are listed in Krause under 'Germany',despite the Russian inscription & currency denomination.
These coins are commonly known as Iron Cross Coins,because of the Iron Cross on the reverse.
These actually stayed in circulation until around 1922,because of the coin shortage in Estonia,Latvia,& Lithuania.
This 1 Kopeck coin is a very nice coin.
Aidan.
Post by: Zantetsuken on March 08, 2010, 07:19:53 PM
Here's one I picked up at a coin show last weekend. This is 1 Kopek for NORTH-WEST RUSSIA & THE BALTICS dated 1916 J, minted in Hamburg. This was issued for the eastern front during World War I by the German imperial army for North-West Russia, Poland and the Baltics. While the coin itself isn't especially rare, it is difficult to find these coins in high grade with luster due to them being made of iron.
(http://i706.photobucket.com/albums/ww65/samuraisedge/NWRussiaBaltics1Kopek1916.jpg)
NORTH-WEST RUSSIA & THE BALTICS~1 Kopek 1916 J
Daniel,
These coins are listed in Krause under 'Germany',despite the Russian inscription & currency denomination.
These coins are commonly known as Iron Cross Coins,because of the Iron Cross on the reverse.
These actually stayed in circulation until around 1922,because of the coin shortage in Estonia,Latvia,& Lithuania.
This 1 Kopeck coin is a very nice coin.
Aidan.
Thanks Aidan. I know they were issued by Germany, I just marked it North-West Russia and the Baltics because this was the area these coins were meant to be used. This coin actually looks even better in person than it does in the photo. As usual, it's tough to capture the toning accurately (at least it is with my camera). Also, I use existing light instead of a flash which accounts for the slight yellowish tint in the background. A flash causes too much of a glare.
~Daniel
Post by: BCNumismatics on March 08, 2010, 07:24:25 PM
I use a Canon CanoScan LiDE 25 flat-bed scanner for doing all my banknote & coin photos.
I downloaded Photostudio 6 by accident last week,as Photostudio 5.5 died on me.
I can't remember where I downloaded it from,as I use that as well as Photoscape for editing my photos.
Aidan.
Post by: regandon on March 08, 2010, 07:24:44 PM
Post by: FilthyBroke on August 27, 2010, 06:22:20 AM
Well, looks like a few posts were lost on this threaed, so I guess we had better get to work on adding some new ones. :)
Here's my latest, a jeton commemorating the wood (charcoal) industry in 1820 France -
(http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc184/Sallythedog/1820Francejeton-Industriedubois2.jpg)
Post by: FilthyBroke on August 27, 2010, 11:45:43 AM
...and a couple of OLD ones, my oldest so far. I usually stick to silver jetons, but before the early 1600's silver was seldom used and can be very difficult to find. There seems to be a cutoff point in the early to mid 1600's where most (if not all) look to be poorly cared for, even dug or deteriorated. I'd guess that these jetons were circulated as currency out of necessity back then, and then later saved by collectors and cared for.
(http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc184/Sallythedog/1584Francejeton-ConseilduRoiHenryIII2.jpg)
This one I need to research some more. It's supposed to depict Mt. Opympus, with a ring of clouds and demons or spirits flying underneath.
(http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc184/Sallythedog/1581ChambredeComptesduRoiHenryIII2.jpg)
Post by: FilthyBroke on August 27, 2010, 11:52:58 AM
Oh, and here's a new toner, too. It's amazing the variations of colors and toning that silver will produce merely by different storage methods and enviroment.
(http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc184/Sallythedog/1749Francejeton-CorporationsMarchandsTeinuriers.jpg)
Post by: coinsarefun on August 27, 2010, 11:54:03 AM
Well, looks like a few posts were lost on this threaed, so I guess we had better get to work on adding some new ones. :)
Here's my latest, a jeton commemorating the wood (charcoal) industry in 1820 France -
(http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc184/Sallythedog/1820Francejeton-Industriedubois2.jpg)
Vice one and glad to see you are posting them back :1Applause;
This thread was a killer thread with all the great images :Beatingheart;
Post by: FilthyBroke on August 27, 2010, 12:09:42 PM
I always enjoy seeing the latest from everyone here. We have quite a wide variety of collecting interests, don't we?
Post by: Zantetsuken on September 14, 2010, 11:36:27 PM
GEORGIA (RUSSIAN VASSAL)~2 Abazi 1833
Post by: coinsarefun on September 14, 2010, 11:55:04 PM
Here is my latest addition. This is 2 Abazi from GEORGIA (RUSSIAN VASSAL) dated 1833 in Georgic legend. Minted in Tiflis (now Tbilisi), this was the last issue date for Georgian coins.
GEORGIA (RUSSIAN VASSAL)~2 Abazi 1833
Very nice :Beatingheart;
Post by: Zantetsuken on September 15, 2010, 12:01:30 AM
~Daniel
Post by: FilthyBroke on September 15, 2010, 02:51:32 PM
Here is my latest addition. This is 2 Abazi from GEORGIA (RUSSIAN VASSAL) dated 1833 in Georgic legend. Minted in Tiflis (now Tbilisi), this was the last issue date for Georgian coins.
GEORGIA (RUSSIAN VASSAL)~2 Abazi 1833
That's pretty cool, I wouldn't have guessed the year as being so recent from the design and detail, looks much earlier. BTW, can you read the legend on this one? I bet that it would be tough to research without some background. I have enough trouble with standard French translations for my jetons.
Post by: Zantetsuken on September 16, 2010, 12:32:55 AM
~Daniel
Post by: Zantetsuken on September 16, 2010, 01:10:54 AM
GEORGIA (RUSSIAN OCCUPATION)~1 Bisti 1787
Post by: BCNumismatics on September 16, 2010, 02:09:43 AM
Those are very nice Georgian coins.
There's more Georgian coin photos on http://www.coins.ge (http://www.coins.ge) & http://www.zeno.ru (http://www.zeno.ru) .
Aidan.
Post by: FilthyBroke on September 16, 2010, 04:48:13 PM
Hi 'FilthBroke'. I'm glad you like the coin. It is pretty cool, especially the unique writing. I can't read Georgian script, (or grammar for that matter) however I was able to translate the legend. The obverse shows 'ტფილისი= TPILISI (TBILISI)' which was the mint. The reverse shows უ - ქართული თეთრი= 400 KARTULI TETRI. The character 'უ' equals 400 in the Georgian numeric system according to the table I read. The word 'Tetri' means white in Georgian in reference to the color of the silver that the coin was made of. Tetris were franctional currency that originated in ancient Georgia, as still now used in the new republic.This was probably the equivilent of the denomination of 2 Abazi which also equals 40 Kopeks in Russian currency. Finally, the bottom line reads 'ჩყლმ=1833'. The numeric code reads 'ჩ = 1,000', 'ყ = 800', 'ლ = 30', 'მ = 3' or 1833 in the western dating system. I hope this was helpful, since this was the best I could do.
~Daniel
That is very cool! I know who to call when I get stuck with a translation now. ;D
Post by: Zantetsuken on September 16, 2010, 05:08:11 PM
Hi 'FilthBroke'. I'm glad you like the coin. It is pretty cool, especially the unique writing. I can't read Georgian script, (or grammar for that matter) however I was able to translate the legend. The obverse shows 'ტფილისი= TPILISI (TBILISI)' which was the mint. The reverse shows უ - ქართული თეთრი= 400 KARTULI TETRI. The character 'უ' equals 400 in the Georgian numeric system according to the table I read. The word 'Tetri' means white in Georgian in reference to the color of the silver that the coin was made of. Tetris were franctional currency that originated in ancient Georgia, as still now used in the new republic.This was probably the equivilent of the denomination of 2 Abazi which also equals 40 Kopeks in Russian currency. Finally, the bottom line reads 'ჩყლმ=1833'. The numeric code reads 'ჩ = 1,000', 'ყ = 800', 'ლ = 30', 'მ = 3' or 1833 in the western dating system. I hope this was helpful, since this was the best I could do.
~Daniel
That is very cool! I know who to call when I get stuck with a translation now. ;D
No problem 'Filthybroke'. All I did was Google 'Georgian alphabet and Georgian-English translation' Then type the legend in as it appeared on the coin. Then voila!, a full translation. I also copied and pasted the Georgian legend to the post here to show how the text looks. Internet is a great tool, huh? Unfortunately, not all sites support text other than Roman. Fortunately, this one does so I can get more creative when needed.
~Daniel
Post by: BCNumismatics on September 16, 2010, 05:38:28 PM
I don't know where the word 'Lari' comes from in Georgian,as the currency of the short-lived Democratic Republic of Georgia was the Georgian Rouble,which wasn't subdivided into anything.
Aidan.
Post by: Zantetsuken on September 16, 2010, 09:13:43 PM
You can find some more information about Georgia's current currency here; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgian_lari (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgian_lari) .
I don't know where the word 'Lari' comes from in Georgian,as the currency of the short-lived Democratic Republic of Georgia was the Georgian Rouble,which wasn't subdivided into anything.
Aidan.
Good question about the Lari, Aidan. It could be the name of money used by the Mongolian hords, or the Persians. Since Georgia has been under the control of numerous different foreign powers (including the ones mentioned above), the Lari could have been influenced by of them. I'll have to check it out.
~Daniel
Post by: Zantetsuken on September 16, 2010, 09:52:39 PM
You can find some more information about Georgia's current currency here; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgian_lari (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgian_lari) .
I don't know where the word 'Lari' comes from in Georgian,as the currency of the short-lived Democratic Republic of Georgia was the Georgian Rouble,which wasn't subdivided into anything.
Aidan.
Good question about the Lari, Aidan. It could be the name of money used by the Mongolian hords, or the Persians. Since Georgia has been under the control of numerous different foreign powers (including the ones mentioned above), the Lari could have been influenced by of them. I'll have to check it out.
~Daniel
UPDATE: I checked out the word 'Lari' on Wikipedia, and it is said to be an old Georgian word. It doesn't give much detail about the word though.
Post by: Zantetsuken on September 18, 2010, 10:29:55 AM
ULCINJ (MUNICIPAL)~AE Folar 1355-1371 AD
Post by: FilthyBroke on September 21, 2010, 06:23:15 PM
Glad to see someone is still buying, I've been on a mandatory purchasing break for about a month. (and it's killin' me!) I even skipped our local show last weekend, the Mrs. said we should go and look, but I told her I wasn't a windowshopper. ;D
Post by: BCNumismatics on September 21, 2010, 06:54:57 PM
:ThumbsUp;
Glad to see someone is still buying, I've been on a mandatory purchasing break for about a month. (and it's killin' me!) I even skipped our local show last weekend, the Mrs. said we should go and look, but I told her I wasn't a windowshopper. ;D
FilthyBroke,
I have done very little buying over the past month or so.
I have got 2 banknotes that are supposed to be arriving from an auction house later on this week.
I have got some more postal orders coming in from England,which my boss will be picking up when he is in London next weekend.
I can't wait to get photos of them up.
Aidan.
Post by: Zantetsuken on September 21, 2010, 10:33:58 PM
:ThumbsUp;
Glad to see someone is still buying, I've been on a mandatory purchasing break for about a month. (and it's killin' me!) I even skipped our local show last weekend, the Mrs. said we should go and look, but I told her I wasn't a windowshopper. ;D
Join the club. I haven't been buying as much the last couple of months. I have the township tax coming up which is going drain me pretty good. Plus, I also had a plumbing job done that drained me even more. It sucks when something you enjoy gets derailed because of emergencies and taxes. Such is life I guess.
I agree with you about the window shopping part. If I go window shopping now, I'd probably lose my will-power and start going on a shopping spree. ;D
~Daniel
Post by: FilthyBroke on September 21, 2010, 10:40:05 PM
Join the club. I haven't been buying as much the last couple of months. I have the township tax coming up which is going drain me pretty good. Plus, I also had a plumbing job done that drained me even more. It sucks when something you enjoy gets derailed because of emergencies and taxes. Such is life I guess.
I agree with you about the window shopping part. If I go window shopping now, I'd probably lose my will-power and start going on a shopping spree. ;D
~Daniel
Bummer. We're trying to handle two mortgages right now. :( That can be a rough ride.
Post by: Zantetsuken on September 21, 2010, 10:58:59 PM
Join the club. I haven't been buying as much the last couple of months. I have the township tax coming up which is going drain me pretty good. Plus, I also had a plumbing job done that drained me even more. It sucks when something you enjoy gets derailed because of emergencies and taxes. Such is life I guess.
I agree with you about the window shopping part. If I go window shopping now, I'd probably lose my will-power and start going on a shopping spree. ;D
~Daniel
Bummer. We're trying to handle two mortgages right now. :( That can be a rough ride.
Ouch! That's got to sting. Our mortgage was paid off years ago. Good thing. I've already got enough expenses as is with the home among other things. Hope things pan out for you.
~Daniel
Post by: coinsarefun on September 23, 2010, 07:54:21 PM
Post by: Zantetsuken on September 23, 2010, 10:31:59 PM
~Daniel
Post by: coinsarefun on September 23, 2010, 10:42:52 PM
Nice specimen Stef. Where'd you pick this up?
~Daniel
At a local coinshop. It almost looks like an impaired proof.
What do you think?
Post by: Zantetsuken on September 24, 2010, 02:14:51 AM
Nice specimen Stef. Where'd you pick this up?
~Daniel
At a local coinshop. It almost looks like an impaired proof.
What do you think?
I'm not sure. I don't know if they had proofs for this date. I'll look under Krause and see what I can find.
~Daniel
Post by: Zantetsuken on September 24, 2010, 08:31:45 AM
~Daniel
Post by: Zantetsuken on October 07, 2010, 06:50:33 PM
SIBERIA (REGIONAL)~Polushka 1774
Post by: coinsarefun on October 07, 2010, 06:55:35 PM
Here's one that arrived today in the mail. This is a Polushka (1/4 Kopek) from SIBERIA dated 1774. Although slightly off-center, this is in much better condition than is usually found for this denomination. This is also the rarest denomination of the six. Many fakes and copies exist for this.
SIBERIA (REGIONAL)~Polushka 1774
Congratulations on a stunning new piece, veery nice :Beatingheart;
Post by: Zantetsuken on October 17, 2010, 10:44:26 PM
MONTENEGRO~20 Para 2002
Post by: FilthyBroke on October 18, 2010, 11:55:40 AM
I love the fact that Daniel adds some historical information with his posts. I think I will follow his lead and try to do more research on each of mine before I post them. History and background really is a large part of collecting coins.
Post by: coinsarefun on October 18, 2010, 12:58:16 PM
:smiley-bounce016:
I love the fact that Daniel adds some historical information with his posts. I think I will follow his lead and try to do more research on each of mine before I post them. History and background really is a large part of collecting coins.
My thoughts exactly !
Post by: Zantetsuken on October 18, 2010, 08:53:13 PM
On another note, I'm posting both the 1906 issue for the Principality of Montenegro, and the 2002 issue together. I'm listing both for comparison sake. Notice that with the exception of the dates, the patterns are almost identical.
MONTENEGRO (PRINCIPALITY)~20 Para 1906
MONTENEGRO~20 Para 2002
Post by: FilthyBroke on October 25, 2010, 04:07:36 PM
This is an 1801 (or there about) jeton for the wood industry in France. I think it goes well with the other wood industry jeton I picked up a while back. Can't find the details on it right now, as my info list is getting so long that it hard to make heads or tails of it. I need a better system! :D
(http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc184/Sallythedog/1801ndCommercedeBoisNeuf.jpg)
Post by: coinsarefun on October 25, 2010, 04:15:57 PM
Ok, so I'm weak! ;D I haven't picked up anything notable in a while now, but had to break down and give in to the pull.
This is an 1801 (or there about) jeton for the wood industry in France. I think it goes well with the other wood industry jeton I picked up a while back. Can't find the details on it right now, as my info list is getting so long that it hard to make heads or tails of it. I need a better system! :D
(http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc184/Sallythedog/1801ndCommercedeBoisNeuf.jpg)
That is one sweet Jeton, love the tree and when you find more info on it I would love to hear about it :Beatingheart;
Post by: Zantetsuken on October 25, 2010, 04:58:17 PM
Ok, so I'm weak! ;D I haven't picked up anything notable in a while now, but had to break down and give in to the pull.
This is an 1801 (or there about) jeton for the wood industry in France. I think it goes well with the other wood industry jeton I picked up a while back. Can't find the details on it right now, as my info list is getting so long that it hard to make heads or tails of it. I need a better system! :D
(http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc184/Sallythedog/1801ndCommercedeBoisNeuf.jpg)
Your breakdown is completely understandable ;D. That's a beautiful jeton you posted. I'm glad your getting back in the saddle again with your collection, and I hope you'll be posting more in the near future. Best of luck.
~Daniel
Post by: FilthyBroke on October 25, 2010, 06:02:35 PM
The Ile Louviers was an island on the River Siene in Paris, often used through the 17-1800's by French logging companies. The island was proned to flooding, and doesn't exist anymore. COMMERCE DE BOIS NEUF translates to NEW TIMBER TRADE.
It's not a rare jeton (as far as the jeton standards go), but an interesting design that I haven't come across before. In fact, I don't yet fully understand their rarity scale as of yet. As far as I can decipher it though, a mintage of 5-10,000 would be a common issue. I'm not so concerned at this point in my collection with mintages, but rather the beauty of the engravings.
ADDED -- I had the date wrong on this one, the AN 12 places it at 1803-04 according to the Republican (Napoleonic) calendar.
Post by: coinsarefun on October 25, 2010, 09:48:51 PM
Post by: Zantetsuken on November 11, 2010, 09:21:36 AM
NORTH KOREA~10 Won 2001
This second piece, is one that I've had for over 15 years. This is 1 Solidus from RIGA dated 1593. A major trading route, and now the capital of Latvia, Riga had under control of numerous world powers, Poland, Sweden, Russia etc through it's long history. The specimen listed here was issued under King: Sigismund Vasa III, who reigned over Poland (King) and Lithuania (Grand Duke) from 1587-1632. Sigusmund also reigned as king of Sweden from 1592 to 1599. The obverse has Riga's municipal arms with the denomination,and city name in Latin along with the partial date. The reverse has Sigismund's seal with his name and title in Latin.
RIGA (MUNICIPAL)~1 Solidus 1593
Post by: FilthyBroke on November 11, 2010, 09:37:20 AM
Interesting that they would have possible descrepancies on the coin. I wonder how that happened? Daniel, do you know where this issue was minted?
Post by: Zantetsuken on November 11, 2010, 10:45:42 AM
Interesting that they would have possible descrepancies on the coin. I wonder how that happened? Daniel, do you know where this issue was minted?
Hey 'FilthyBroke'. To be quite honest I'm not sure. It's just the differences I've notice when Googling the name. When I type in Ri Sun Sin, it comes upe 'Yi', rather than 'Ri'. It could be that because the Koreans have a different writing from the Roman alphabet, there might have complications with choosing the right character when putting the name in English. Also, unless the Koreans address their naval officers as Generals instead of Admirals, this is also a discrepency. Regardless, it's a nice coin and is very difficult to find, especially in the United States. As for where the coin was minted, that too I'm at a loss. I don't know if there's a mint in Pyongyang or not, or if they might have been minted in China which is North Korea's only chief ally diplomatically and economically. I'll see if I can find anything further.
~Daniel
Post by: FilthyBroke on November 11, 2010, 12:49:56 PM
Being closer to my personal era of collecting, the 1593 solidus looks cool, too. A lot of copper that I've seen from pre-1600 is corroded or barely recognizable, so I can appreciate how well preserved this one is. Keep 'em coming! :ThumbsUp;
Post by: Zantetsuken on November 11, 2010, 05:21:29 PM
I don't remember exactly where I heard it, but I did hear that smaller countries would outsource their coining. That was the first thing I thought of when I heard of the descrepancies, possibly from translation or something like that. Still, cool coin and thought-provoking info.
Being closer to my personal era of collecting, the 1593 solidus looks cool, too. A lot of copper that I've seen from pre-1600 is corroded or barely recognizable, so I can appreciate how well preserved this one is. Keep 'em coming! :ThumbsUp;
I'm glad you like them. Getting an outside source would seem logical, and maybe North Korea did just that. It's just that they are so reclusive, that I thought they might have struck their own. I couldn't find any info on it. As for the Solidus coin, I think it's either silver or billon. I pretty sure it's not copper, although the heavy toning would trick the eye into thinking it is. I'm aching to get more coins and notes, but my wallet got hit with two maintainance bills, so cash is tight for the moment. Still as soon as I get anything, I'll post it be assured.
~Daniel
Post by: FilthyBroke on November 11, 2010, 07:16:49 PM
As for the Solidus coin, I think it's either silver or billon. I pretty sure it's not copper...
Oops! My bad. It has that copper look to it from the picture.
<<I'm aching to get more coins and notes, but my wallet got hit with two maintainance bills, so cash is tight for the moment. Still as soon as I get anything, I'll post it be assured.
Cool. I'm also struggling to keep active collecting right now, still haven't closed on our home sale yet. We'll get it straightened out soon, I hope. Luckily, I haven't really found much numismatically that I want lately, mostly because I stay away from the sites that have tempted me in the past. That can be a difficult task, I'm sure you all know what I mean. :)
Post by: coinsarefun on November 22, 2010, 12:19:38 PM
(http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u312/coinarefun/Darkside/44ad87e5.jpg)
Post by: coinsarefun on November 22, 2010, 12:23:04 PM
You can see the double strike on the obverse
(http://www.coinsarefun.com/forum/MGalleryItem.php?id=262)
Post by: FilthyBroke on November 22, 2010, 01:25:21 PM
Israel 5 Pruta
(http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u312/coinarefun/Darkside/44ad87e5.jpg)
Wow, nice toning! I like that Indian coin, too.... and that one is aluminum? Wonder if it's a mix of metals, it looks like has some toning to it. I didn't know aluminum toned.
Post by: FilthyBroke on November 22, 2010, 01:27:07 PM
(http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc184/Sallythedog/1843France-AssurancesBordelaise.jpg)
Post by: Deagle74 on November 22, 2010, 02:15:51 PM
Israel 5 Pruta
(http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u312/coinarefun/Darkside/44ad87e5.jpg)
Mmm nice Israeli toner Stefanie
Post by: BCNumismatics on November 22, 2010, 02:18:20 PM
1958 India 10 Paise Aluminium
You can see the double strike on the obverse
(http://www.coinsarefun.com/forum/MGalleryItem.php?id=262)
Stefanie,
That is a very nice 10 Naye Paise that you have got there.
Between 1957 & 1963,the Indian Rupee was divided into 100 Naye Paise.Since 1964,it has been divided into 100 Paise.
This is actually a cupro-nickel coin.
Errors are very common in the Indian decimal coin series.
Your Israeli coin looks like a 5 Lirot.
Aidan.
Post by: Zantetsuken on November 24, 2010, 07:50:17 PM
CZECHOSLOVAKIA (FEDERATIVE REPUBLIC)~10 Koruna 1993
Post by: regandon on November 24, 2010, 08:09:29 PM
Post by: Zantetsuken on November 24, 2010, 09:07:21 PM
I've said it many times.... you have an amazing collection. :ThumbsUp;
Thanks 'regandon', I'm glad you like it. It's klnd of curious that they issued a coin for a defunct country. That was one of the things that piqued my interest for this. Later in 1993 both the Czech and Slovak republics issued seperate coins and notes.
~Daniel
Post by: BCNumismatics on November 26, 2010, 01:25:14 AM
Here's one that arrived today. This is 10 Koruna from CZECHOSLOVAKIA dated 1993. The coin shows a profile of M.R. (Milan Rastislav) Stefanik who was the First Minister of War during the old republic from 1918-1919. This coin has historic interest for two reasons. One, it was the last issue date for Czechoslovakia. Two, it was issued for a country that had already ceased to exist. Czechoslovakia peacefully spit in two on New Years day 1993 in what some called the 'Velvet Divorce', because the breakup occured without bloodshed.
CZECHOSLOVAKIA (FEDERATIVE REPUBLIC)~10 Koruna 1993
Daniel,
That's a very nice 10 Korun that you have got there.The mintmark looks like it was struck at the Kremnica Mint,which is now the official mint for Slovakia.
Since 2009,the Slovakian Koruna has been replaced by the Euro,but the Czech Republic's Koruna could be replaced by the Euro at some point in the next few years,provided that the Eurozone doesn't become toast.
Aidan.
Post by: Zantetsuken on November 26, 2010, 08:02:43 AM
Here's one that arrived today. This is 10 Koruna from CZECHOSLOVAKIA dated 1993. The coin shows a profile of M.R. (Milan Rastislav) Stefanik who was the First Minister of War during the old republic from 1918-1919. This coin has historic interest for two reasons. One, it was the last issue date for Czechoslovakia. Two, it was issued for a country that had already ceased to exist. Czechoslovakia peacefully spit in two on New Years day 1993 in what some called the 'Velvet Divorce', because the breakup occured without bloodshed.
CZECHOSLOVAKIA (FEDERATIVE REPUBLIC)~10 Koruna 1993
Daniel,
That's a very nice 10 Korun that you have got there.The mintmark looks like it was struck at the Kremnica Mint,which is now the official mint for Slovakia.
Since 2009,the Slovakian Koruna has been replaced by the Euro,but the Czech Republic's Koruna could be replaced by the Euro at some point in the next few years,provided that the Eurozone doesn't become toast.
Aidan.
Thanks Aidan, I'm glad you like it. I didn't know Slovakia had converted to the Euro already. That being said, it's strange the Czechs haven't done the same. I have a couple more items due soon. A silver dinar from medieval Serbia, and a silver Ruble from the Russian Empire. I'll post them as soon as they arrive.
~Daniel
Post by: BCNumismatics on November 30, 2010, 08:53:57 AM
Although they are undated,they were put into circulation in August by the Kelantanese Government.
They are a 1 Dirham & a 2 Dirhams in .999 fine silver.
Have a read here; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kelantan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kelantan) , here; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kelantanese_dinar (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kelantanese_dinar) ,& http://www.dinarkel.com (http://www.dinarkel.com) .
Please let me know what you think.
Aidan.
Post by: Zantetsuken on December 03, 2010, 12:56:40 AM
(http://i706.photobucket.com/albums/ww65/samuraisedge/Serbia1stKingdomARHelmDinar1331-1346AD.jpg)
SERBIA (1st KINGDOM)~AR Helm Dinar 1331-1346 AD
~Daniel
Post by: Zantetsuken on December 03, 2010, 01:00:29 AM
~Daniel
Post by: BCNumismatics on December 03, 2010, 01:25:21 AM
Nice coins Aidan. The images are kind of grainy, but the designs still come through well. I'm not familiar with the area these coins originate from. I love the patterns and the stylized Arabic script. Thanks for posting these.
~Daniel
Daniel,
All of my photos are taken using my Canon CanoScan LiDE 25 flat-bed scanner.
They are edited using Photostudio 6 & this FREE photo editor; http://www.photoscape.org (http://www.photoscape.org) .It is hard to get photos that don't look grainy,especially for .999 fine silver coins.
Kelantan is one of the states of Malaysia.It is the top-most state in Malaya,as Thailand is on its northern border.Kedah is another Malaysian state that has also had its own coins in recent years.
I am so looking forward to both Perak's & Selangor's coin issues coming out in the next year.They will also be both Dinars & Dirhams as well.
We have the Sultans & governments of these states to thank,as well as Professor Umar Vadillo.
Aidan.
Post by: Zantetsuken on December 03, 2010, 08:19:35 AM
Daniel,
All of my photos are taken using my Canon CanoScan LiDE 25 flat-bed scanner.
They are edited using Photostudio 6 & this FREE photo editor; http://www.photoscape.org (http://www.photoscape.org) .It is hard to get photos that don't look grainy,especially for .999 fine silver coins.
Kelantan is one of the states of Malaysia.It is the top-most state in Malaya,as Thailand is on its northern border.Kedah is another Malaysian state that has also had its own coins in recent years.
I am so looking forward to both Perak's & Selangor's coin issues coming out in the next year.They will also be both Dinars & Dirhams as well.
We have the Sultans & governments of these states to thank,as well as Professor Umar Vadillo.
Aidan.
I have a CanoScan LiDe 70 scanner. I used to use the scanner to do imaging of my coins, but I never liked the results. The coin images were fuzzy, and the colors washed out. Now I use a digital camera for my coins, and the scanner for my paper money. The scanner works way better with paper money the images with depth like coins and other objects. Thanks for the info.
~Daniel
Post by: Zantetsuken on December 09, 2010, 12:27:13 AM
(http://i706.photobucket.com/albums/ww65/samuraisedge/EnglandARShortCrossPenny1016-1035AD-1.jpg)
ENGLAND~AR Short-Cross Penny 1016-1035 AD
Post by: FilthyBroke on December 09, 2010, 06:32:48 AM
A very interesting point in England's history, no doubt. I've always been interested in the stabilization and rise of England as a world power, and the birth of the magna carta (which came under John's rule I think), seems to read a little like the birth of our own nation. Great stuff! :ThumbsUp;
Post by: Zantetsuken on December 09, 2010, 04:40:43 PM
Small world, eh? :) I didn't realize that you were the buyer until I saw your signature on the note this morning and then your post here. I'm glad to know that it went to a great home.
A very interesting point in England's history, no doubt. I've always been interested in the stabilization and rise of England as a world power, and the birth of the magna carta (which came under John's rule I think), seems to read a little like the birth of our own nation. Great stuff! :ThumbsUp;
Small world indeed. I had no idea you were the seller. It's a great coin. I've been looking for one of these for awhile. The pattern is interesting, and I'm impressed by how well cropped the edges are for coins of this era. Most of them look like someone took a meat cleaver to them. I'm thinking of making a slab for it in the future. In any case, thanks and I hope we can do business again in the future.
~Daniel
Post by: FilthyBroke on December 09, 2010, 06:21:27 PM
I had that one in a coin world slab until I decided to sell it. I could look for the holder and send it to you if you want, I just need the diameter of the coin. I purchased about 40-50 of the coin world holders and have a mixed bag of extras now. In fact, if you need a few I'd be glad to send you some of my extras. Let me know.
Post by: BCNumismatics on December 10, 2010, 05:34:45 AM
Here's one that just arrived in the mail. This is a silver Short-Cross Penny from ENGLAND dating from 1016-1035 AD. Anglo-Saxon coinage issued under the reign of Viking King: Cnut~The Great. Born in Denmark, Cnut (also called Canute) would come to reign over Denmark, Norway, England, and southern Sweden. Considered one of the greatest leaders in medieval Europe due to his political and military skills.
(http://i706.photobucket.com/albums/ww65/samuraisedge/EnglandARShortCrossPenny1016-1035AD.jpg)
ENGLAND~AR Short-Cross Penny 1016-1035 AD
Daniel,
That is one very nice coin that you have got there.
I have found the English coins from reigns prior to King Edward I to be pretty elusive so far.
Aidan.
Post by: Zantetsuken on December 13, 2010, 11:09:08 PM
Here's one that just arrived in the mail. This is a silver Short-Cross Penny from ENGLAND dating from 1016-1035 AD. Anglo-Saxon coinage issued under the reign of Viking King: Cnut~The Great. Born in Denmark, Cnut (also called Canute) would come to reign over Denmark, Norway, England, and southern Sweden. Considered one of the greatest leaders in medieval Europe due to his political and military skills.
(http://i706.photobucket.com/albums/ww65/samuraisedge/EnglandARShortCrossPenny1016-1035AD.jpg)
ENGLAND~AR Short-Cross Penny 1016-1035 AD
Daniel,
That is one very nice coin that you have got there.
I have found the English coins from reigns prior to King Edward I to be pretty elusive so far.
Aidan.
Thanks Aidan. I don't know about elusive (in my area at least), but they are very pricey. Fate threw me a bone, and I got a great deal on this. Aethelred II and Cnut pieces usually go for $500 USD +. Since I'm of English descent, this coin holds special value to me.
~Daniel
Post by: FilthyBroke on December 14, 2010, 01:43:39 PM
I do have some neat jetons on the way, though. We FINALLY closed the sale of our house and can move on to newer and better things. Plus, I get to start rebuilding (and further focusing) the collection. :)
Post by: BCNumismatics on December 15, 2010, 04:38:59 AM
You're not wrong about Anglo-Saxon coins being expensive.King Canute was from the short-lived Anglo-Danish dynasty (1016-42).
I have never spent more than NZ$200 for one numismatic item.I can't buy expensive numismatic items nowadays,as I am busy trying to manage in these very tough times.
Being of Scots descent,I do collect Scots coins,but they have always been difficult to find.
Fortunately,there are some cheap hammered English coins - especially King Edward I's silver 1 Penny coins.King Edward I took on the Scots & lost.
Aidan.
Post by: Zantetsuken on December 15, 2010, 07:19:41 AM
Daniel,
You're not wrong about Anglo-Saxon coins being expensive.King Canute was from the short-lived Anglo-Danish dynasty (1016-42).
I have never spent more than NZ$200 for one numismatic item.I can't buy expensive numismatic items nowadays,as I am busy trying to manage in these very tough times.
Being of Scots descent,I do collect Scots coins,but they have always been difficult to find.
Fortunately,there are some cheap hammered English coins - especially King Edward I's silver 1 Penny coins.King Edward I took on the Scots & lost.
Aidan.
Ah, now the early Scottish coins seem a bit more difficult to find. I do have a coin from David II with a damaged flan, but nothing else. Interesting coins none the less.
~Daniel
Post by: Billy Kingsley on December 16, 2010, 01:32:07 PM
Malta 1998 1 cent, featuring the common weasel. :signcool;
(http://images43.fotki.com/v504/photos/4/348354/9326683/Malta1998Cent-vi.jpg)
Post by: Zantetsuken on December 16, 2010, 05:56:13 PM
Here's my latest...rare for me of late to add something. This was an early Christmas present from my Mom.
Malta 1998 1 cent, featuring the common weasel. :signcool;
(http://images43.fotki.com/v504/photos/4/348354/9326683/Malta1998Cent-vi.jpg)
Nice gift you received. Thanks for sharing it with us. Happy holidays.
~Daniel
Post by: Zantetsuken on December 19, 2010, 01:20:31 PM
(http://i706.photobucket.com/albums/ww65/samuraisedge/RussianEmpire1Ruble1762.jpg)
RUSSIAN EMPIRE~1 Ruble 1762
Post by: BCNumismatics on December 19, 2010, 07:26:15 PM
That's a very nice pick-up that you have got there.
It isn't common for a monarch to put out their first coins in the same year that they acceded to the throne.
Check out these 2 coins;
East Africa 1956 10 Cents - a type coin.
Singapore 2008SM 1 Dollar - Year of the Rat - unlisted in Krause's 'Unusual World Coins'.
Please let me know what you think.
Aidan.
Post by: Zantetsuken on December 19, 2010, 07:40:12 PM
Daniel,
That's a very nice pick-up that you have got there.
It isn't common for a monarch to put out their first coins in the same year that they acceded to the throne.
Check out these 2 coins;
East Africa 1956 10 Cents - a type coin.
Singapore 2008SM 1 Dollar - Year of the Rat - unlisted in Krause's 'Unusual World Coins'.
Please let me know what you think.
Aidan.
Thanks Aidan. You have a couple nice specimens too. Coins with the Chinese zodiac are cool. The toning for the East African coin is very attractive. Thanks for sharing.
~Daniel
Post by: BCNumismatics on December 20, 2010, 04:23:07 PM
I have a lot of numismatic items that I would have liked to have uploaded photos of onto http://www.zeno.ru (http://www.zeno.ru) .
One of these days,I will get myself familiarised with reconfiguring the program up on http://www.worldnumismaticphotogallery.net (http://www.worldnumismaticphotogallery.net) ,then adding in extra sections.
Aidan.
Post by: FilthyBroke on December 21, 2010, 05:47:03 AM
Here's one I received in the mail yesterday. This is 1 Ruble from the RUSSIAN EMPIRE dated 1762. Issued under the reign of Tsaritsa: Ekaterina Romanov II~The Great. Minted in Saint Petersburg.
RUSSIAN EMPIRE~1 Ruble 1762
I really like this one. I was just looking at the gold version of this in that Bonham's auction, thinking what a cool design it was. :ThumbsUp;
Post by: Zantetsuken on December 21, 2010, 06:42:51 AM
Here's one I received in the mail yesterday. This is 1 Ruble from the RUSSIAN EMPIRE dated 1762. Issued under the reign of Tsaritsa: Ekaterina Romanov II~The Great. Minted in Saint Petersburg.
RUSSIAN EMPIRE~1 Ruble 1762
I really like this one. I was just looking at the gold version of this in that Bonham's auction, thinking what a cool design it was. :ThumbsUp;
Thanks 'FilthyBroke', I'm glad you like it. I would have loved to see the gold Ruble that you mentioned. I bet that fetched a hefty price. The imperial Russian coins always have interesting patterns, and I try to aquire them whenever possible.
~Daniel
Post by: FilthyBroke on December 21, 2010, 12:17:41 PM
http://www.bonhams.com/cgi-bin/public.sh/WService=wslive_pub/pubweb/publicSite.r?sContinent=USA&screen=catalogue&iSaleNo=18404&iSaleLotNo=1010 (http://www.bonhams.com/cgi-bin/public.sh/WService=wslive_pub/pubweb/publicSite.r?sContinent=USA&screen=catalogue&iSaleNo=18404&iSaleLotNo=1010)
I have the auction catalog, it turned out to be an interesting display of Russian gold from that era. I don't think I've seen most of those designs before.
Post by: BCNumismatics on December 21, 2010, 01:50:31 PM
All of the other Czarist Russian commemorative 1 Rouble coins eluded me.
I eventually offloaded them when I sold my non-British Commonwealth coins back in 2006 to get some cash to buy my computer.
Aidan.
Post by: Zantetsuken on December 21, 2010, 06:12:15 PM
Daniel, here's an overview of that auction -
http://www.bonhams.com/cgi-bin/public.sh/WService=wslive_pub/pubweb/publicSite.r?sContinent=USA&screen=catalogue&iSaleNo=18404&iSaleLotNo=1010 (http://www.bonhams.com/cgi-bin/public.sh/WService=wslive_pub/pubweb/publicSite.r?sContinent=USA&screen=catalogue&iSaleNo=18404&iSaleLotNo=1010)
I have the auction catalog, it turned out to be an interesting display of Russian gold from that era. I don't think I've seen most of those designs before.
Thanks for the link 'FilthyBroke'. They are sweet looking coins, and as I figured, most of them went for four figures and up. Too rich for my blood, but one can dream, right? ;D
~Daniel
Post by: Billy Kingsley on December 22, 2010, 07:52:48 PM
Here's my latest...rare for me of late to add something. This was an early Christmas present from my Mom.
Malta 1998 1 cent, featuring the common weasel. :signcool;
(http://images43.fotki.com/v504/photos/4/348354/9326683/Malta1998Cent-vi.jpg)
Nice gift you received. Thanks for sharing it with us. Happy holidays.
~Daniel
Thanks Daniel! I was really surprised but happy to have recieved it :) I like the Russian issue you just posted after mine, too.
Aiden, I really like the design of that Singapore Rat coin. I may be weird, but I like rodents in pretty much any form...as long as they aren't in my house, anyway!
Post by: BCNumismatics on December 26, 2010, 11:33:43 PM
That's a very nice Maltese 1 Cent coin that you have got there.
I have found a lot of the Maltese coins pretty tough to find,& as for Maltese banknotes,even more so.
Aidan.
Post by: FilthyBroke on December 27, 2010, 12:24:45 PM
Note the textured reverse fields, I don't recall seeing this technique used before--
(http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc184/Sallythedog/1832Francejeton-Melusineassurancecompagnie.jpg)
Post by: Zantetsuken on December 27, 2010, 01:57:52 PM
Finally getting back to purchasing. Here's a quick pic of my newest, a silver French jeton for the Melusine maritime insurance company, dating 1832. This design has been a hard find, so I had to jump on this one when the opportunity arose. :)
Note the textured reverse fields, I don't recall seeing this technique used before--
(http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc184/Sallythedog/1832Francejeton-Melusineassurancecompagnie.jpg)
What better way to get back to purchasing than with a beauty like this. Awesome piece 'FilthyBroke'. I love the mermaid pattern on the obverse, and the tall-ship navigating the rough surf. I know exactly what you mean when jumping at opportunities. I've had rare coins that I've bid on before, and occasionally, fate throws me a bone. I'm happy your efforts payed off for you. Thanks for sharing.
~Daniel
Post by: regandon on December 27, 2010, 02:18:39 PM
Post by: regandon on December 27, 2010, 02:25:57 PM
Post by: Zantetsuken on December 27, 2010, 03:31:57 PM
Post by: FilthyBroke on December 27, 2010, 06:00:24 PM
Thanks guys! It's nice to be back in the game. I have some more on the way, maybe by the end of this week if the mail is on schedule.
Don, that's a cool macro shot! You can really see how intricate the details are on the design. That's a nice addition. :ThumbsUp;
Post by: Conderluva on December 27, 2010, 07:25:38 PM
Post by: FilthyBroke on January 06, 2011, 12:25:26 PM
Well, after 23 days of waiting, the second of my new purchases has arrived. Wow, I didn't realize that shipping from France was slowed that much lately, but it arrived safely so I can't really complain.
So here's my latest, a 1637 sliver jeton for the farming industry of France -
(http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc184/Sallythedog/1637France-GeneralTreasuriesofthefarmsofFrance.jpg)
I need one of those macro lenses that regandon is using, but for now we're still roughing it. :)
Post by: regandon on January 06, 2011, 12:31:02 PM
Post by: FilthyBroke on January 06, 2011, 12:42:29 PM
Nice one :ThumbsUp; You've got one nice collection.
Thanks, your taler collection is a beautiful sight, too. Thanks for displaying them here for us.
Post by: Zantetsuken on January 06, 2011, 05:07:11 PM
~Daniel
Post by: Zantetsuken on January 08, 2011, 08:38:40 PM
KHWAREZM SOVIET PEOPLES REPUBLIC~100 Ruble 1339 AH/1921 AD
Post by: regandon on January 08, 2011, 08:51:35 PM
Post by: Zantetsuken on January 09, 2011, 12:07:30 AM
Nice one :ThumbsUp;
Thanks 'regandon'. With this one, I finally have every denomination for this area. On the other hand, I have yet to find the different variations for the denominations. The quest continues, but at least one hurdle is cleared.
~Daniel
Post by: FilthyBroke on January 10, 2011, 11:05:54 AM
Here's a new one, a 1723 jeton with a younger portrait of Louis XV and the old money press which has been a popular theme with coin collectors. I found this one at a really nice price on VCoins a few weeks ago, and you all know that I can't pass up a deal. ;D
1723 La Monnoye de France (Paris)
(http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc184/Sallythedog/1723France-LaMonnoye.jpg)
Post by: Zantetsuken on January 12, 2011, 12:02:28 AM
Here's a new one, a 1723 jeton with a younger portrait of Louis XV and the old money press which has been a popular theme with coin collectors. I found this one at a really nice price on VCoins a few weeks ago, and you all know that I can't pass up a deal. ;D
1723 La Monnoye de France (Paris)
(http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc184/Sallythedog/1723France-LaMonnoye.jpg)
Another nice specimen 'FilthyBroke'. But then again, I would expect nothing less from you. Thanks for sharing.
~Daniel
Post by: FilthyBroke on January 19, 2011, 06:33:36 AM
As a side note to anyone thinking of ordering coins from overseas - I have two packages out that have been in postal limbo since about the 15th of December. I have tracking info on one (floating around the NY/NJ area for two weeks now), and the other isn't even showing in the system yet. :( I ordered a total of four from that time period, only two have made it to my door so far.
Props to the post office who won't allow me to get any information on either package, and won't admit an issue with a priority package that's weeks late. :1cussing;
I'll post pics of them when/if they arrive.
Post by: Zantetsuken on January 19, 2011, 09:28:32 AM
Thanks Daniel!
As a side note to anyone thinking of ordering coins from overseas - I have two packages out that have been in postal limbo since about the 15th of December. I have tracking info on one (floating around the NY/NJ area for two weeks now), and the other isn't even showing in the system yet. :( I ordered a total of four from that time period, only two have made it to my door so far.
Props to the post office who won't allow me to get any information on either package, and won't admit an issue with a priority package that's weeks late. :1cussing;
I'll post pics of them when/if they arrive.
Hey 'FilthyBroke'. I understand your frustration. If it's registered mail, that seems to take the longest to arrive, but it also depends on where the item is shipping from. For example, registered letters usually only take 2 weeks, where as , items from Russia, China and remote areas could take over a month. I had package come from Uzbekistan, and it took about a month and a half to arrive. Since you have tracking info, that's a big help incase you should need to claim something. Good luck.
~Daniel
Post by: Zantetsuken on January 19, 2011, 09:41:37 AM
(http://i706.photobucket.com/albums/ww65/samuraisedge/KHIVAKHANATEAEFalus1327AH1909AD-1.jpg)
KHIVA (KHANATE)~Falus 1327 AH/1909 AD
~Daniel
Post by: FilthyBroke on January 19, 2011, 01:58:12 PM
Oh, and one of my orders came in today (after 34 days). This one is a 1648 jeton for the King's council. I really like the obverse scene on this one -
(http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc184/Sallythedog/1648France-ConseilduRoi.jpg)
Post by: Zantetsuken on January 19, 2011, 05:25:14 PM
Hey, that's pretty cool! It also reminds me of the Judaean pieces with that shape. I wonder if these were these struck on a similar planchet style to the Judaean prutahs, having the occasional tab on the side? Maybe not, but that's the first thing I thought of.
Oh, and one of my orders came in today (after 34 days). This one is a 1648 jeton for the King's council. I really like the obverse scene on this one -
(http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc184/Sallythedog/1648France-ConseilduRoi.jpg)
Gotta love it. I'm especially partial to the design on the obverse with the coastal sunrise. I'm glad your patience has payed off. Thanks for sharing. Thanks also for your comment on my Khivan piece. I think alot of coins from Central Asia look like this due to the crude striking and minting methods. This one is a slightly higher than average grade. Usually most of the design is extremely weak to non-existant. At least you can make most of the pattern on each side.
~Daniel
Post by: Zantetsuken on January 19, 2011, 07:18:01 PM
(http://i706.photobucket.com/albums/ww65/samuraisedge/IonianIslands1Lepton1862.jpg)
IONIAN ISLANDS~1 Lepton 1862
Post by: FilthyBroke on January 20, 2011, 06:22:20 AM
[q]I think alot of coins from Central Asia look like this due to the crude striking and minting methods.[/q]
The very first coins I think of when thinking of weak/poor striking methods are the English hammered coins from Henry I and II and Stephen reign. Wow! It's hard to imagine how things revert to such a poor state after the earlier strikes of Cnut and Aethelred, and even the Roman and Greek coins with such strong strikes. It gets you to thinking about how hard things got for people during these times.
Post by: Zantetsuken on January 20, 2011, 06:44:33 AM
I've always loved the Britannia design, this coin design especially because of the lion obverse.
[q]I think alot of coins from Central Asia look like this due to the crude striking and minting methods.[/q]
The very first coins I think of when thinking of weak/poor striking methods are the English hammered coins from Henry I and II and Stephen reign. Wow! It's hard to imagine how things revert to such a poor state after the earlier strikes of Cnut and Aethelred, and even the Roman and Greek coins with such strong strikes. It gets you to thinking about how hard things got for people during these times.
You're right the winged lion is pretty cool. I also love the toning on this as well. What you said about coins from Central Asia is also true. The specimen I posted from Khiva is only a little over a century old. Retrospectively, it's not that old, but it looks to be 500+ years old just because of the crude minting methods. I can't begin to imagine how hard it must have been for the people who actually had to strike the coins.
~Daniel
Post by: Zantetsuken on January 21, 2011, 12:20:46 AM
CROATIA, SLAVONIA & DALMATIA (TRIUNE KINGDOM)~1 Krizar 1849 *COPY*
Post by: FilthyBroke on January 21, 2011, 06:35:55 AM
I see from another site that this is a great modern rarity in Croatian coins. Do you know when this one was minted and what metal was used versus the original?
Post by: Zantetsuken on January 21, 2011, 08:49:23 AM
I see from another site that this is a great modern rarity in Croatian coins. Do you know when this one was minted and what metal was used versus the original?
Thanks 'FilthyBroke'. I really don't know when or where these were minted, or what metal these were struck with. In fact when I look under Krause, they only make mention of this, and one other denomination (20 Krizar, silver), but there was no visual details for either. This must be a very illusive one. I rarely if ever buy copies or facsimiles, but I found this specimen interesting. Until I saw this on Ebay, I thought 1934 was the earliest modern Croatian coins minted, even though they were fantasy or propaganda pieces. I'll try to do more digging when I get a chance.
~Daniel
Post by: FilthyBroke on January 21, 2011, 01:30:28 PM
Post by: FilthyBroke on January 21, 2011, 01:45:11 PM
My big order arrived from mid-December. This is the one I was mainly concerned about, as it included many rare pieces that are certainly not going to come around again soon. It's like Christmas has finally arrived. :)
Architecture - the roads/bridges companies
(http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc184/Sallythedog/1838-COMPAGNIEDESPONTSDASNIERESETDARGENTEUIL.jpg)
Beautiful cityscape - Chartres
(http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc184/Sallythedog/1689-LaVilledeChartres.jpg)
You all know I love ships, right? ;) Marseille Assurances
(http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc184/Sallythedog/sd-AssurancesMarseille.jpg)
Auguste Robert de Pomereu
(http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc184/Sallythedog/1684-AugustdePomereu.jpg)
Industrial Society of Amiens -
(http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc184/Sallythedog/1861-SOCIETEINDUSTRIELLEDAMIENS.jpg)
Post by: Zantetsuken on January 21, 2011, 06:03:49 PM
~Daniel
Post by: FilthyBroke on January 21, 2011, 07:11:16 PM
Wow! That's quite a haul. You really outdid yourself with this one. I love the designs on all of these. Thanks for sharing.
~Daniel
Thanks! The top four pictured were some that I was watching for nearly a year, just waiting for an opportunity to make a major purchase. They are pretty rare compared with a lot of other issues, and the condition and overall "look" fits my set so far. Oh, and the last one pictured just had a cool look to it. ;)
Post by: BCNumismatics on January 23, 2011, 09:10:52 PM
Here's one that arrived today. This is 1 Lepton from the IONIAN ISLANDS dated 1862. This is a key date since it was the last issue before the British handed the region over to the Greek government.
(http://i706.photobucket.com/albums/ww65/samuraisedge/IonianIslands1Lepton1862.jpg)
IONIAN ISLANDS~1 Lepton 1862
Daniel,
That is one very nice coin that you've got there.The only Ionian Islands coin that I have dated 1862 in my collection is a holed example of the 30 Lepta.
The Ionian Islands colonial coin series is one that has proved to be a challenging one for me.
Aidan.
Post by: Zantetsuken on February 04, 2011, 07:08:43 AM
(http://i706.photobucket.com/albums/ww65/samuraisedge/RhodesARGigliato1365-1374AD-1.jpg)
RHODES~AR Gigliato 1365-1374 AD
Post by: FilthyBroke on February 04, 2011, 11:33:38 AM
Henry III , Brussels Hoard -
(http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc184/Sallythedog/HenryIII-London.jpg)
Story on the Brussels Hoard -
Discovered in Brussels, Belgium in 1908 this huge hoard consisted of around 145,000 silver pennies from England, Scotland, Ireland and the Continent. It would appear to have been buried around c.1265 and given it's vast size an explanation has been sought to understand why such a huge amount of money was assembled, concealed and subsequently not recovered.
One theory surrounds Richard of Cornwall (1209-1272), the younger brother of Henry III who became Holy Roman Emperor in 1257.
The main supporters of his election to the imperial throne were the Electoral Princes (known as the "English party") of Cologne, Mainz and the Palatinate. Richard bought the elector's votes for the vast sum of 28,000 marks (equivalent to 4,480,000 pennies at 160 pennies to the mark).
Whilst a large part of this sum may have been rendered in silver bullion, much of it would have been paid in coin and it does provide a reason for a huge parcel of coins on the continent, perhaps en route to Richard's allies in the Rhineland.
Post by: Zantetsuken on February 04, 2011, 05:55:43 PM
~Daniel
Post by: BCNumismatics on February 06, 2011, 02:23:51 AM
We both got some medieval silver in this week, Daniel. I like your new one, I've never heard of a "gigliato" before.
Henry III , Brussels Hoard -
(http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc184/Sallythedog/HenryIII-London.jpg)
Story on the Brussels Hoard -
Discovered in Brussels, Belgium in 1908 this huge hoard consisted of around 145,000 silver pennies from England, Scotland, Ireland and the Continent. It would appear to have been buried around c.1265 and given it's vast size an explanation has been sought to understand why such a huge amount of money was assembled, concealed and subsequently not recovered.
One theory surrounds Richard of Cornwall (1209-1272), the younger brother of Henry III who became Holy Roman Emperor in 1257.
The main supporters of his election to the imperial throne were the Electoral Princes (known as the "English party") of Cologne, Mainz and the Palatinate. Richard bought the elector's votes for the vast sum of 28,000 marks (equivalent to 4,480,000 pennies at 160 pennies to the mark).
Whilst a large part of this sum may have been rendered in silver bullion, much of it would have been paid in coin and it does provide a reason for a huge parcel of coins on the continent, perhaps en route to Richard's allies in the Rhineland.
That's another amazing coin you've got there.
Aidan.
Post by: FilthyBroke on February 11, 2011, 04:33:44 PM
I've had these two for a month or two, but thought I'd post them as I just added them to my gallery.
First, the story behind these Llanddona Hoard coins (story from the York Coins site)--
The Llanddona Hoard was discovered with the aid of metal detectors on Llanddona Beach, Red Wharf Bay between September 1999 and August 2006. Almost 1000 silver coins were recovered, English pennies of Edward I-II from various mints, Irish pennies of Edward I, Scottish Sterlings of Alexander III and John Baliol and various Continental Esterlins from the Low Countries. The coins were reported to the National Museum of Wales in Cardiff and declared Treasure under the Treasure Act of 1996. The Isle of Anglesey Museum acquired several hundred coins from the hoard, the balance of 649 coins being returned to the finders who released the hoard onto the market.
Found within a 50 meter area of the beach, there is no doubt in the opinion of Edward Besly, Assistant Keeper of Numismatics at the National Museum of Wales, that the coins are from a single hoard. There is evidence from the concretion on one coin, which preserved evidence of a fine plain weave textile, that the coins were most probably contained within a cloth container. It is therefore likely in the opinion of Mr. Besly that the hoard was perhaps lost accidently from a beached vessel in the bay or by a person crossing the sands. The last theory is very likely given that the 3.5 mile walk across the sands has long been used as short cut. In this context it is easy to imagine someone being caught out by the tide and either losing their purse or possibly their life as well. Local tradition makes frequent reference to shipwrecks and this is another possibly, however the very localized deposition of the hoard would suggest otherwise. From the latest coin in the hoard it would appear to have been lost around the year 1330.
Edward I penny, Llanddona Hoard -
(http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc184/Sallythedog/EdwardILlanddonaLL10.jpg)
Edward II penny, Llanddona Hoard -
(http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc184/Sallythedog/EdwardIILlanddonaLL168.jpg)
Post by: Zantetsuken on February 25, 2011, 08:46:35 PM
(http://i706.photobucket.com/albums/ww65/samuraisedge/RussiaARKopek1584-1598AD.jpg)
RUSSIA~AR Kopek 1584-1598
~Daniel
Post by: coinsarefun on February 25, 2011, 08:54:33 PM
Here's one that arrived today. This is a silver wire Kopek from RUSSIA dating from 1584-1598. Issued under Tsar: Feodor Rurik. Feodor was the son of Ivan Rurik IV~The Terrible, and was last of Rurik line when he died without child in 1598. Mint: Novgorod.
(http://i706.photobucket.com/albums/ww65/samuraisedge/RussiaARKopek1584-1598AD.jpg)
RUSSIA~AR Kopek 1584-1598
~Daniel
That's amazing! I honestly dont know that much about this type of coin, is it considered an ancient coin?
If so it appears to be mint state to me, is it?
Post by: Zantetsuken on February 25, 2011, 09:15:22 PM
:smiley-bounce016:Here's one that arrived today. This is a silver wire Kopek from RUSSIA dating from 1584-1598. Issued under Tsar: Feodor Rurik. Feodor was the son of Ivan Rurik IV~The Terrible, and was last of Rurik line when he died without child in 1598. Mint: Novgorod.
(http://i706.photobucket.com/albums/ww65/samuraisedge/RussiaARKopek1584-1598AD.jpg)
RUSSIA~AR Kopek 1584-1598
~Daniel
That's amazing! I honestly dont know that much about this type of coin, is it considered an ancient coin?
If so it appears to be mint state to me, is it?
Hey Stef, long time no talk. Hope you've been well. Thanks I'm glad you like the coin. It's not actually an ancient or medieval because of the issue date. The medieval era ended roughly arounde the late 15th century, and began the renaissance period. You are right, however about the grade. This would be Uncirculated or almost so (IMO). The strike is exceptional for type with the images on both sides being very sharp. Wire coins were struck with silver and copper wire bits cut to appropriate lengths, then struck between special dies. Often, the strike would be very crude and poorly centered. This can make these coins difficult if not impossible to I.D, because they have so much missing details. Wire coins circulated in Russia until around the late 1600's,under Tsar: Peter Romanov, when he introduced standard size coins. Hope this information helped.
~Daniel
Post by: regandon on February 25, 2011, 09:33:25 PM
Post by: coinsarefun on February 25, 2011, 10:47:00 PM
Here's one that arrived today. This is a silver wire Kopek from RUSSIA dating from 1584-1598. Issued under Tsar: Feodor Rurik. Feodor was the son of Ivan Rurik IV~The Terrible, and was last of Rurik line when he died without child in 1598. Mint: Novgorod.
~Daniel
That's amazing! I honestly dont know that much about this type of coin, is it considered an ancient coin?
If so it appears to be mint state to me, is it?
Hey Stef, long time no talk. Hope you've been well. Thanks I'm glad you like the coin. It's not actually an ancient or medieval because of the issue date. The medieval era ended roughly arounde the late 15th century, and began the renaissance period. You are right, however about the grade. This would be Uncirculated or almost so (IMO). The strike is exceptional for type with the images on both sides being very sharp. Wire coins were struck with silver and copper wire bits cut to appropriate lengths, then struck between special dies. Often, the strike would be very crude and poorly centered. This can make these coins difficult if not impossible to I.D, because they have so much missing details. Wire coins circulated in Russia until around the late 1600's,under Tsar: Peter Romanov, when he introduced standard size coins. Hope this information helped.
~Daniel
Ah, I see now Daniel, thanks for the information. I am so happy and grateful that you are a member here
because I have learned so very much and look forward to each and every post :1Applause;
Post by: Zantetsuken on February 26, 2011, 07:07:19 AM
As for the Russian coins, I had a guy from Moscow who sent me a zipped file of a catalog of Russian wire coins about two years ago. It showed hand rendered images (and a few photos) of all coins issued between Grand Duke: Ivan III and Tsar: Peter Romanov I~The Great. This catalog was a god-send, since helped me I.D most of the coins that were previously a mystery. Here's one of them. This is a wire Kopek under Tsar: Peter the Great, dated CS=1698 shortly before Russia achieved imperial status. This was among the last wire coins to be issued before standard coins were minted. Because of the doubled image, it was difficult to identify. The catalog rememdied this.
(http://i706.photobucket.com/albums/ww65/samuraisedge/RussianEmpireARKopek1698.jpg)
RUSSIA~AR Kopek CS=1698
~Daniel
Post by: FilthyBroke on February 26, 2011, 01:55:51 PM
More....post more. There is a lot of history in those coins that FilthyBroke and Zantetsuken are posting. I would love to sit down with you two, and just look at your guys collections.
Thanks, and it would be very cool to meet up one day and see in-hand a few of those beautiful talers you have posted here. I haven't had the chance to share my collection outside of my forum pictures yet.
Post by: FilthyBroke on February 28, 2011, 11:49:11 AM
The mail just arrived, and to my surprise I now have the first of my budding medal collection. ;D This thing is massive (59mm)! I see the allure of larger coins and medals now, very cool!
This is a bronze medal commemorating the signing of the Treaty of Versaille, showing "peace" on the obverse and the gardens of Versaille on the reverse.
(http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc184/Sallythedog/1919VersailleMedal.jpg)
Post by: coinsarefun on February 28, 2011, 05:15:43 PM
The mail just arrived, and to my surprise I now have the first of my budding medal collection. ;D This thing is massive (59mm)! I see the allure of larger coins and medals now, very cool!
This is a bronze medal commemorating the signing of the Treaty of Versaille, showing "peace" on the obverse and the gardens of Versaille on the reverse.
(http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc184/Sallythedog/1919VersailleMedal.jpg)
I love the obverse design........she is beautiful :Beatingheart;
What a great medal to kick off your collection Happy(*)
Post by: FilthyBroke on February 28, 2011, 05:37:12 PM
Post by: regandon on February 28, 2011, 07:09:44 PM
Post by: FilthyBroke on March 03, 2011, 04:37:50 PM
Now that is nice :ThumbsUp;
Thanks, Don. Here's one for you, I know you appreciate the city views-
This silver medal/plaque is 87mm, and quite hefty!
(http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc184/Sallythedog/1919France-HyppolyteLefebvre.jpg)
Post by: FilthyBroke on March 03, 2011, 04:42:41 PM
Post by: regandon on March 03, 2011, 06:31:04 PM
Post by: FilthyBroke on March 03, 2011, 07:40:35 PM
Post by: regandon on March 03, 2011, 08:37:23 PM
Post by: regandon on March 03, 2011, 09:55:23 PM
Post by: coinsarefun on March 04, 2011, 12:15:05 AM
I like it :)
Post by: regandon on March 04, 2011, 05:40:08 AM
Regandon is that a Leopold the Hogmouth Taler?
I like it :)
Yes it is, the one and only Leopold the Hogmouth.
Post by: FilthyBroke on March 04, 2011, 06:40:21 AM
Yeah, there's no mistaking the Leopold. :D That 1746 looks like it'll have a bit of color around the rim, looking forward to seeing your pis of it, Don.
Btw, I missed my mailman yesterday, too. Of course I made that trip to the post office just as soon as I thought the package would be available. I got lucky and they had my package, but the sad thing about was that when I opened it, one of the two medals was not what I ordered, and now I'm going to have to do a return (to France). I have a very select interest in coin design, and the one they sent was a portrait of Napoleon with a laurel reverse and some engraving. Overall it was a decent medal, just not my thing. I'm hoping that it won't take three weeks to get this straightened out.
Post by: FilthyBroke on March 04, 2011, 01:18:57 PM
** A word of warning - I just had to pay $29.25 for return shipping to France. :( It went out Priority, no insurance or signature or any of that good stuff. What a rip! The p.o. website lists shipping at under $15, so you can imagine my surprise when she filled me in on the actual cost from our local office.
I'm thinking now that I should've just kept the medal they sent me.
Post by: coinsarefun on March 04, 2011, 02:33:11 PM
** A word of warning - I just had to pay $29.25 for return shipping to France. :( It went out Priority, no insurance or signature or any of that good stuff. What a rip! The p.o. website lists shipping at under $15, so you can imagine my surprise when she filled me in on the actual cost from our local office.
I'm thinking now that I should've just kept the medal they sent me.
When I read your post above I had a bad feeling. That stinks filthybroke!
Is there any way to email them and say your not happy?
btw.....are they on our list of dealers and link page?
http://www.coinsarefun.com/importantlinksanddealers.html (http://www.coinsarefun.com/importantlinksanddealers.html)
If they are we should post a warning......that's just not fair :(
Post by: FilthyBroke on March 04, 2011, 02:52:27 PM
The seller messed up, but are doing a great job to try to remedy the situation. Just wanted to clarify that, as sometimes my posts could probably be worded a little clearer. :)
Added-- Oh, and no, they're not on your dealer list.
Post by: coinsarefun on March 04, 2011, 02:55:38 PM
Post by: FilthyBroke on March 04, 2011, 03:04:11 PM
Post by: coinsarefun on March 04, 2011, 03:15:48 PM
Post by: Zohar444 on March 05, 2011, 06:09:50 PM
Post by: Zantetsuken on March 06, 2011, 02:37:57 PM
I missed the mail man today, so I need to go the post office in the A.M. to pick it up a new prized piece. It is a very low mintage 1/2Taler from Hall Germany. It has a mintage of 700 pieces. The photo posted is not mine. I will post a better pic when pick it up from the post office. Hall never minted 1/2Talers or Talers in large numbers. From what mintage records I've been able to look at. It seems the highest mintage was in 1746 with 800 Talers being minted. The best part, is that I got it for XF price. The second coin is an Austrian Taler. What makes this one Taler special to my collection, is that it is an overdate that I've not seen many of.
Always the life of the party. Such beautiful coins. I only have two coins that are professionally slabbed. Yours should fetch a nice price should you decide to sell them someday. Germany had some really nice designs for their state and municipal coins. Thanks for sharing.
~Daniel
Post by: regandon on March 07, 2011, 05:09:46 PM
Post by: Zantetsuken on March 07, 2011, 05:53:29 PM
(http://i706.photobucket.com/albums/ww65/samuraisedge/CreteCandia4Soldi1625-1629.jpg)
CRETE/CANDIA (COLONIAL)~4 Soldi/60 Tornesi 1625-1629
Post by: regandon on March 07, 2011, 06:07:50 PM
Post by: Zantetsuken on March 07, 2011, 06:34:52 PM
Nice piece. That one is not an easy one to find in good shape. :ThumbsUp;
Thanks 'regandon'. I was very happy with this one. As you said these are hard to find, especially in high grade. I love the combination of the Lion of St. Marco with the Greek legend on both faces.
~Daniel
Post by: regandon on March 07, 2011, 06:38:40 PM
Post by: FilthyBroke on March 07, 2011, 06:40:12 PM
Post by: Zantetsuken on March 08, 2011, 09:09:30 AM
~Daniel
Post by: FilthyBroke on March 21, 2011, 01:16:42 PM
I finally got the medal that was ordered a good while back, but the seller was very good about it, so no complaints here, really. It even came in a neat little velvet case, I didn't expect that. :)
(http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc184/Sallythedog/1910MedailledeCoudrayChateauroux.jpg)
Post by: regandon on March 21, 2011, 03:45:18 PM
Post by: FilthyBroke on March 21, 2011, 04:14:40 PM
WOW !! very nice design.
Thanks, Don! I'm trying to find some info on the artist behind this one, L. Coudray. Anyone have anything on him/her?
Funny thing is, when I first started collecting French jetons, I shyed away from this type of design. Over time, the "soft" backgrounds grew on me, now I find them fascinating. Coudray has a few beautiful jeton designs in additon to the medals that I've seen.
Post by: Zantetsuken on March 21, 2011, 04:55:55 PM
I finally got the medal that was ordered a good while back, but the seller was very good about it, so no complaints here, really. It even came in a neat little velvet case, I didn't expect that. :)
(http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc184/Sallythedog/1910MedailledeCoudrayChateauroux.jpg)
Leave it to you to bring another beautiful item to the party. This ones absolutely gorgeous. Both sides have very eye catching detail and the semi-lusterous surface brings it out nicely. Thanks for sharing.
~Daniel
Post by: FilthyBroke on March 21, 2011, 06:53:00 PM
Marie Alexandre Lucien Coudray -- Born in Paris, 21 Feb 1865, died in 1932. He was a French medallist who trained in Paris at the Ecole des Beaux-Arts under Augustin-Alexandre Dumont, Gabriel-Jules Thomas, Henri-Emile Allouard and Hubert Ponscarme, winning the Prix de Rome for medal engraving in 1893. His "Orpheus at the Entrance to the Underworld" which was struck for the Exposition Universelle of 1900, was immensely popular and is to this day one of the best known of French Art Nouveau medals.
Post by: Zohar444 on March 23, 2011, 07:52:05 PM
Post by: FilthyBroke on March 23, 2011, 08:32:00 PM
Post by: coinsarefun on March 23, 2011, 09:01:15 PM
Very elegant :Beatingheart;
Post by: Zohar444 on March 23, 2011, 09:48:13 PM
Post by: coinsarefun on March 23, 2011, 09:50:40 PM
Thanks guys. This is one of the scarcer pieces currently with the grading factory, NGC.
Let us know what that beauty grades
Post by: Zantetsuken on March 23, 2011, 11:08:15 PM
~Daniel
Post by: regandon on March 24, 2011, 09:38:32 AM
Post by: Zantetsuken on March 25, 2011, 07:50:25 AM
(http://i706.photobucket.com/albums/ww65/samuraisedge/IonianIslands2Soldi1600s.jpg)
IONIAN ISLANDS (COLONIAL)~2 Soldi 1600's ?
Post by: FilthyBroke on March 25, 2011, 03:01:44 PM
There is so much history to learn, I was just reading a little on the Ionian islands. It sounds like they were an area of almost constant turmoil, having at some point or another being under the rule of the French, British, German, etc.
Post by: Zantetsuken on March 25, 2011, 04:54:58 PM
:ThumbsUp;
There is so much history to learn, I was just reading a little on the Ionian islands. It sounds like they were an area of almost constant turmoil, having at some point or another being under the rule of the French, British, German, etc.
True that, and not just the Ionian Islands either. Most of the Balkans have at one point or another had been under the gun, Greece, Bulgaria, Serbia etc. The first millenium it was by the Roman and Byzantine empires, the second was by the Turks, Mongols and Hungarians. Coins are very important footprints in the history of the world.
Daniel
Post by: coinsarefun on March 25, 2011, 05:25:59 PM
:ThumbsUp;
There is so much history to learn, I was just reading a little on the Ionian islands. It sounds like they were an area of almost constant turmoil, having at some point or another being under the rule of the French, British, German, etc.
True that, and not just the Ionian Islands either. Most of the Balkans have at one point or another been under the gun, Greece, Bulgaria, Serbia etc. The first millenium it was by the Roman and Byzantine empires, the second was by the Turks, Mongols and Hungarians. Coins are a very important footprints in the history of the world.
Daniel
Very well said Daniel :1Applause;
I like that phrase Coins are a very important footprints in the history of the world.
Post by: regandon on March 26, 2011, 05:45:48 PM
Post by: FilthyBroke on March 28, 2011, 12:12:59 PM
It really surprised me when I opened the package and looked this one over, it may be the nicest example I've seen so far of this design.
Reunion des Assureurs, 1830 date, but the bee punchmark suggests this one was actually minted 1860-80.
(http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc184/Sallythedog/1831France-ParisReunionAssureursParticuliers.jpg)
Post by: Zantetsuken on March 28, 2011, 08:46:20 PM
~Daniel
Post by: Zantetsuken on March 28, 2011, 08:49:45 PM
SIBERIA (REGIONAL)~1 Grivnik 1764 *COPY*
~Daniel
Post by: coinsarefun on March 28, 2011, 09:26:41 PM
Here's one that arrived today. This is 1 Grivnik from SIBERIA dated 1764. This is a copy of an extremely rare pattern from 1764. Originals only exist in major collections and museums.
SIBERIA (REGIONAL)~1 Grivnik 1764 *COPY*
~Daniel
That's a super piece Daniel. When you say copy are you referring to a Novadel?
Post by: Zantetsuken on March 29, 2011, 02:02:38 AM
Here's one that arrived today. This is 1 Grivnik from SIBERIA dated 1764. This is a copy of an extremely rare pattern from 1764. Originals only exist in major collections and museums.
SIBERIA (REGIONAL)~1 Grivnik 1764 *COPY*
~Daniel
That's a super piece Daniel. When you say copy are you referring to a Novadel?
Thanks Stef. It's not a 'Novodel', although these are sometimes sold as such. It might be museum copy or something else. Still, it's an attractive alternative, when the original is not an option. Originals, if encountered, would probably go for at least six or seven figures on an auction block. Even 'Novodels' go for a quite a bit. In fact, they sometimes cost more than the original coins. Be careful though, there are unscrupulous people on Ebay that sell coins such as these as Novodels when then are just regular copies or fakes.
From what I understand, 'Novodels' were coins struck in the early 1800's by copying the original die patterns, then striking coins making a virtual image of the original design. Whereas, 'Restrikes' are coins struck with the original dies. This what a friend of mine told me when I was at a coin store.
Post by: coinsarefun on March 29, 2011, 02:17:18 AM
I understand now. You are right, sometime the Novadels cost more than the actual coin ;)
I picked these two up last year and the were not cheap!
But they are beautiful and already graded. I picked up in the Heritage Auction.
(http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u312/coinarefun/Russian%20and%20Hungarian%20Sets/1778SiberiaCatherineIINovodelKopeck.jpg)
(http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u312/coinarefun/Russian%20and%20Hungarian%20Sets/1788CatherineIIcopperNovodelPolushk.jpg)
Post by: Zantetsuken on March 29, 2011, 06:56:47 AM
Thanks Daniel,
I understand now. You are right, sometime the Novadels cost more than the actual coin ;)
I picked these two up last year and the were not cheap!
But they are beautiful and already graded. I picked up in the Heritage Auction.
(http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u312/coinarefun/Russian%20and%20Hungarian%20Sets/1778SiberiaCatherineIINovodelKopeck.jpg)
(http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u312/coinarefun/Russian%20and%20Hungarian%20Sets/1788CatherineIIcopperNovodelPolushk.jpg)
I remember these when you first posted them. They are gorgeous. That was the first time I ever saw a true Novodel that close. It's good that they are professionally graded, so if you resell them someday, you should hopefully get a premium. Also, this should put potential buyers at ease that they are getting genuine Novodels,and not knock-offs.. Thanks for posting these again.
~Daniel
Post by: FilthyBroke on March 29, 2011, 08:04:54 PM
Thanks Stef. It's not a 'Novodel', although these are sometimes sold as such. It might be museum copy or something else. Still, it's an attractive alternative, when the original is not an option. Originals, if encountered, would probably go for at least six or seven figures on an auction block. Even 'Novodels' go for a quite a bit. In fact, they sometimes cost more than the original coins. Be careful though, there are unscrupulous people on Ebay that sell coins such as these as Novodels when then are just regular copies or fakes.
From what I understand, 'Novodels' were coins struck in the early 1800's by copying the original die patterns, then striking coins making a virtual image of the original design. Whereas, 'Restrikes' are coins struck with the original dies. This what a friend of mine told me when I was at a coin store.
Good info, thanks for posting this. Would this mean that all restrikes are from original dies? That would make sense to me, I wasn't sure if a restrike could be an official re-release of a design, but made with new dies.
Post by: Zantetsuken on March 30, 2011, 05:34:10 AM
Thanks Stef. It's not a 'Novodel', although these are sometimes sold as such. It might be museum copy or something else. Still, it's an attractive alternative, when the original is not an option. Originals, if encountered, would probably go for at least six or seven figures on an auction block. Even 'Novodels' go for a quite a bit. In fact, they sometimes cost more than the original coins. Be careful though, there are unscrupulous people on Ebay that sell coins such as these as Novodels when then are just regular copies or fakes.
From what I understand, 'Novodels' were coins struck in the early 1800's by copying the original die patterns, then striking coins making a virtual image of the original design. Whereas, 'Restrikes' are coins struck with the original dies. This what a friend of mine told me when I was at a coin store.
Good info, thanks for posting this. Would this mean that all restrikes are from original dies? That would make sense to me, I wasn't sure if a restrike could be an official re-release of a design, but made with new dies.
That's pretty much how I understand it. If you look at Stefanie's Novodels, they look pretty much spot on with the originals. The only difference is they are more lusterous than the originals, and lack the imperfections which was all too common with original coins. On the issue of Restrikes, I think they are also authorised by the government and mint to produce the coins. Most other copies are not (like mine). Still, it's an interesting filler piece, when the original is not an option.
~Daniel
Post by: FilthyBroke on March 31, 2011, 04:56:05 PM
Still, it's an interesting filler piece, when the original is not an option.
Oh, I know what you mean. There are some coins that just won't ever be attainable.
Post by: Zantetsuken on April 02, 2011, 03:36:00 PM
SIBERIA (REGIONAL)~5 Kopek 1779
~Daniel
Post by: FilthyBroke on April 02, 2011, 06:57:45 PM
Not to change the topic, but since you know a lot about Russian coins - What would be a good choice for my WWII set? I know very little about Russian coins, but I'd like to find a nice circulated Russian example that would have been in circulation in Stalingrad maybe during the war, and maybe minted during wartime?
Post by: Zantetsuken on April 03, 2011, 09:22:58 AM
:ThumbsUp; Keep 'em coming, you must have quite a collection!
Not to change the topic, but since you know a lot about Russian coins - What would be a good choice for my WWII set? I know very little about Russian coins, but I'd like to find a nice circulated Russian example that would have been in circulation in Stalingrad maybe during the war, and maybe minted during wartime?
Thanks 'FilthyBroke', I'm glad you like it. About the Soviet coins from WWII, the last time I checked, most of the coins from that period were pretty much the same and the prices weren't that much higher. I'll have to check a current catalog for the prices though. You can probably pick them up on Ebay, just be careful not to get ripped off by some of them.
~Daniel
Post by: FilthyBroke on April 03, 2011, 12:31:43 PM
Post by: Zantetsuken on April 03, 2011, 02:57:21 PM
I've seen a select few on Ebay, but nothing special so far. Were there silver coins issued during '42-'43? I saw a bunch of copper-nickel stuff so far, but I'd prefer small silver if it's available.
From what I've checked, there were no silver coins issued for the U.S.S.R. during the WWII. The last silver coins issued (utilitarian issues) was 1930. There are known silver specimens from 1931, but they are extremely rare. After 1931, most of the coins were copper-nickel base. The only denominations struck in 1942, during the 'Battle of Stalingrad' were the 10,15 and 20 Kopek coins. The 10 and 15 Kopeks are scarce, going for approximately $100 in UNC.. There were also no Ruble coins issued between 1924 and 1964. Basically, the Soviets only issued utilitarian coins from 1924-1964, so there are no known, or official commemoratives during this time period. I hope this helps.
~Daniel
Post by: FilthyBroke on April 03, 2011, 04:56:25 PM
I just like to check first and see if there is anything cool in silver first, and thought maybe I was missing something. Thanks for your help! :)
Post by: coinsarefun on April 03, 2011, 09:18:52 PM
Here's one that arrived today. This is 5 Kopek from SIBERIA dated 1779.
SIBERIA (REGIONAL)~5 Kopek 1779
~Daniel
My kind of coin :Beatingheart; :Beatingheart;
Really beautiful Daniel
Post by: Zantetsuken on April 05, 2011, 06:36:02 AM
Here's one that arrived today. This is 5 Kopek from SIBERIA dated 1779.
SIBERIA (REGIONAL)~5 Kopek 1779
~Daniel
My kind of coin :Beatingheart; :Beatingheart;
Really beautiful Daniel
Thanks Stefanie, I'm glad you liked it. I have another one arriving hopefully within a couple weeks. It's 2 Kopek from Siberia dated 1780. I'll post it as soon as it arrives.
~Daniel
Post by: Zantetsuken on April 11, 2011, 09:16:53 PM
GEORGIA (KINGDOM)~AE Follis 420 (Koronikon Calender)/1200 AD
Post by: FilthyBroke on April 12, 2011, 06:28:29 PM
Post by: Zantetsuken on April 12, 2011, 07:04:51 PM
You always come up with some cool stuff. I don't think I've seen this design before, thanks for posting it.
Thanks 'FilthyBroke', I'm glad you like it. I think I did post another specimen of this over a year ago, only that one had a countermark on it. Here's a respost so you can compare the two.
GEORGIA (KINGDOM)~AE Follis 420 (Koronikon Calender)/1200 AD *Countermarked*
GEORGIA (KINGDOM)~AE Follis 420 (Koronikon Calender)/1200 AD
Note the countermark on the first image. It's at the bottom of the obverse side. From what I understand, the coins without countermarks are supposed to be rarer than the marked coins.
~Daniel
Post by: FilthyBroke on April 12, 2011, 07:32:51 PM
Speaking of which, I have to double-check myself all the time these days. I had an order out and forgot what was in it (only out for 12 days), and when I opened it today I saw four coins where I thought I had ordered three. I thought I was getting a bonus or something, just for about five seconds until I saw the invoice where I paid for four. It's falling apart fast for me since I hit the forties! :(
Oh, and speaking of forgetting stuff, here's my new pickup today -
1894 Caisse d'Pargne -
(http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc184/Sallythedog/1894CaisseDEspargneetdePrevoyancedeParis2.jpg)
Post by: Zantetsuken on April 12, 2011, 07:38:32 PM
~Daniel
Post by: FilthyBroke on April 12, 2011, 07:49:16 PM
Post by: Zantetsuken on April 19, 2011, 08:35:04 PM
SIBERIA (REGIONAL)~2 Kopek 1780
Post by: FilthyBroke on April 20, 2011, 06:46:20 AM
I wonder what two kopeks would buy back in the day (1780)?
Post by: Zantetsuken on April 20, 2011, 07:12:17 AM
:ThumbsUp;
I wonder what two kopeks would buy back in the day (1780)?
I don't know how much the Russian currency was valued at during that time, but I can bet is worth alot more than a 500 Rubles today. Just a guess. It's like how the penny back during the early years of the U.S. was worth more and bought more. Days long gone for both.
~Daniel
Post by: coinsarefun on April 21, 2011, 04:03:58 PM
Here's my latest aquisition. This is 2 Kopek from SIBERIA dated 1780. This was the last issue date for this denomination.
SIBERIA (REGIONAL)~2 Kopek 1780
You just keep them coming and I love it :Beatingheart; :smiley-cool05:
Post by: Zantetsuken on April 21, 2011, 07:09:20 PM
Here's my latest aquisition. This is 2 Kopek from SIBERIA dated 1780. This was the last issue date for this denomination.
SIBERIA (REGIONAL)~2 Kopek 1780
You just keep them coming and I love it :Beatingheart; :smiley-cool05:
Thanks Stefanie. I don't have any more coins from Siberia or Russia coming at the moment, but I do have one from 15th century Bosnia due within two weeks that I'll post when it arrives. I can't wait.
~Daniel
Post by: FilthyBroke on April 21, 2011, 08:14:24 PM
Hopefully I will come across something of interest soon. Been looking for another hammered coin, but the prices keep going up on the really cool stuff.
Post by: coinsarefun on April 27, 2011, 04:47:54 AM
(http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u312/coinarefun/339761e9.jpg)
(http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u312/coinarefun/0ce3ac2b.jpg)
Post by: FilthyBroke on April 27, 2011, 11:11:34 AM
Post by: FilthyBroke on April 27, 2011, 03:05:53 PM
I usually try to stick with silver jetons, but this design was just too cool to pass on.
1685 Henri de Fourcy -
(http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc184/Sallythedog/1685HenrideFourcy.jpg)
Post by: Zantetsuken on May 06, 2011, 09:45:30 PM
Post by: Zantetsuken on May 06, 2011, 09:51:54 PM
I usually try to stick with silver jetons, but this design was just too cool to pass on.
1685 Henri de Fourcy -
(http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc184/Sallythedog/1685HenrideFourcy.jpg)
I can see why. This is sweet looking piece. I love the design of both sides, especially the obverse. Thanks for sharing.
~Daniel
Post by: Zantetsuken on May 08, 2011, 08:35:23 PM
Post by: coinsarefun on May 09, 2011, 12:18:02 AM
Here are a couple new ones that arrived Saturday. The first is silver Denga from the GRAND DUCHY OF MOSHAISK dating from 1389-1432 AD. Issued under Grand Duke: Andrei Dmitrievich. The second is a silver Denga from RUSSIA (MOSCOW) dating from 1425-1462 AD. Issued under Grand Duke: Vasily Rurik II~The Blind.MOSHAISK (GRAND DUCHY)~AR Denga 1389-1432 AD
RUSSIA (MOSCOW)~AR Denga 1425-1462 AD
These are so amazing and thanks to you I am learning more and more :ThumbsUp; (hail))
Post by: FilthyBroke on May 09, 2011, 06:45:49 PM
It's a pleasure seeing everyone's newps and getting a little background in addition. Keep up the great work!!
Post by: FilthyBroke on May 12, 2011, 05:50:51 PM
Well, I just couldn't let this one get away.
Caisse D'Epargne Beauvais. Silver jeton, 37mm-
(http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc184/Sallythedog/sdCaissesDepargneBeauvais.jpg)
I have a new camera coming tomorrow or Saturday, so I'll be testing it's macro capabilities on this one, and maybe I'll be able to update the picture.
Post by: Zantetsuken on May 12, 2011, 07:09:39 PM
Well, I just couldn't let this one get away.
Caisse D'Epargne Beauvais. Silver jeton, 37mm-
(http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc184/Sallythedog/sdCaissesDepargneBeauvais.jpg)
I have a new camera coming tomorrow or Saturday, so I'll be testing it's macro capabilities on this one, and maybe I'll be able to update the picture.
Can't wait to see what the images will look like with the new camera, but for now this one looks nice enough. Love the design, especially on the reverse. Thanks for sharing as always.
~Daniel
Post by: FilthyBroke on May 24, 2011, 10:16:28 AM
Just added this one to the collection -
1836 Caisse d'epargne de Perpignan, one of only a few matte finished jetons I've come across so far -
(http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc184/Sallythedog/1836CaissedepargnedePerignan.jpg)
Post by: Zantetsuken on May 24, 2011, 10:40:30 AM
~Daniel
Post by: FilthyBroke on May 24, 2011, 10:50:37 AM
I guess I'm not a great salesman, keeping stuff for myself. ;D I did sell a couple of others from my set to compensate for it, my set seems to be constantly changing.
Post by: Zantetsuken on June 03, 2011, 07:53:19 PM
Post by: FilthyBroke on June 03, 2011, 08:15:00 PM
And of course I couldn't find any reference to the star on the reverse, so I'm going to have to bug you about it. :)
Does it hold a religious significance? It brings to mind a couple other designs I've seen with the star of Bethlehem or some comet that was visible during those days....any thoughts?
(my luck it's a flower or something totally off the mark of my guess :D..)
Post by: Zantetsuken on June 03, 2011, 10:54:59 PM
Wow, that 5 tenge has a lot of detail left on it! I was looking up the significance of the star on it, and most examples are quite a bit more circulated than yours.
And of course I couldn't find any reference to the star on the reverse, so I'm going to have to bug you about it. :)
Does it hold a religious significance? It brings to mind a couple other designs I've seen with the star of Bethlehem or some comet that was visible during those days....any thoughts?
(my luck it's a flower or something totally off the mark of my guess :D..)
Actually, I think both the crescent and the star have religious significance. They are use throughout the Islamic world, on their flags (Turkey for example), and other nation emblems. The crescent and star, continued to be used even during the Soviet era. It's rather curious to see a religious symblol combined with a Soviet symbol, considering that many communists discouraged religion or outlawed it all together. Here are a couple examples.
~Daniel
Post by: Zantetsuken on June 10, 2011, 10:31:35 AM
SIBERIA (REGIONAL)~2 Kopek 1780
Post by: coinsarefun on June 10, 2011, 12:46:39 PM
It took awhile to get this, but it finally arrived. This is an upgrade to a previous coin image submitted. This is 2 Kopek from SIBERIA dated 1780. This was last issue date for this denomination.
SIBERIA (REGIONAL)~2 Kopek 1780
Zantetsuken, it is beautiful :Beatingheart;
I just love it!
Post by: FilthyBroke on June 10, 2011, 04:18:25 PM
Post by: Zantetsuken on June 10, 2011, 05:49:31 PM
Zantetsuken, it is beautiful :Beatingheart;
I just love it!
Thanks Stef, I'm glad you liked it. I thought I did a pretty good job of capturing the toning on this which is not easy to do. I used a combination of camera flash and desk lamp to get the right effect.
~Daniel
Post by: FilthyBroke on June 12, 2011, 07:35:37 PM
Here's a neat design I came across at the show today. I don't know if the info is right on it, but it's listed as Japan - silver, year 12 (1937) 50 Sen, can anyone verify this info?
(http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc184/Sallythedog/DSCF1090.jpg)
Post by: Zantetsuken on June 13, 2011, 06:09:10 AM
Here's a neat design I came across at the show today. I don't know if the info is right on it, but it's listed as Japan - silver, year 12 (1937) 50 Sen, can anyone verify this info?
(http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc184/Sallythedog/DSCF1090.jpg)
Nice indeed. It's definitely Japanese because of the seal at the top on the obverse side. It appears to be a 10 Sen piece. I looked this up under Krause, but couldn't find any more details other than the era this was issued under (Showa~1926-1989). This particular specimen, curiously wasn't listed in Krauses catalog. Sorry if this isn't much help. It's a beautiful coin none the less. Thanks for sharing.
~Daniel
Post by: Zantetsuken on June 13, 2011, 06:22:20 AM
~Daniel
Post by: FilthyBroke on June 13, 2011, 05:35:19 PM
Post by: coinsarefun on June 13, 2011, 08:38:16 PM
Post by: Zantetsuken on June 15, 2011, 06:41:46 AM
Thanks Daniel! I really should get the Krause catalog for the 1900's coins, but just haven't really looked for one yet. I'm relying on the seller's attributions on most of these, and just wanted to check and make sure his info was accurate.
You should. Although the prices they quote are off the mark, it's still a good reference book. You can get most of these on DVD-ROM now. I bought a 3-disc set for the 2008 Krause Catalog about 3 years ago. It included the 1801-1900, 1901-2000, and 2001-2008 catalogs for around $30. Better than the bulky books that's for sure. Check it out on Ebay.
~Daniel
Post by: Zantetsuken on June 16, 2011, 08:04:22 PM
GREECE (KINGDOM)~1 Drachmai 1832
Post by: FilthyBroke on June 17, 2011, 08:05:34 AM
You should. Although the prices they quote are off the mark, it's still a good reference book. You can get most of these on DVD-ROM now. I bought a 3-disc set for the 2008 Krause Catalog about 3 years ago. It included the 1801-1900, 1901-2000, and 2001-2008 catalogs for around $30. Better than the bulky books that's for sure. Check it out on Ebay.
~Daniel
I almost ordered the 5 disc set when it was offered last year at $60, but just didn't do it for whatever reason. It can be fun to just browse through a Krause for new ideas though.
Oh, and nice Drachma! :ThumbsUp;
Post by: FilthyBroke on June 23, 2011, 11:03:13 AM
This one fits quite well with my other mermaid jetons, an undated (I'd guess around mid-1800's) silver jeton, I'll be looking up some details on it this evening.
(http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc184/Sallythedog/DSCF1116.jpg)
Post by: Zantetsuken on June 30, 2011, 09:26:55 AM
~Daniel
Post by: Zantetsuken on June 30, 2011, 10:01:10 AM
Post by: FilthyBroke on June 30, 2011, 02:23:04 PM
I just love hammered coins, and medieval English history, so you probably already knew where this was going! ;D
This coin is an Edward I "denier au lion", struck between 1253 and 1272 in Aquitaine (France), under is father Henry III's reign.
Here's a link to some great info on his reign -http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_I_of_England (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_I_of_England)
(http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc184/Sallythedog/EdwardIAngloGallicdenieraulion.jpg)
Post by: Zantetsuken on June 30, 2011, 05:55:59 PM
~Daniel
Post by: FilthyBroke on July 02, 2011, 08:29:44 AM
Sweet looking coin 'FilthyBroke'. Medieval coins are indeed cool. My main area is East Europe and Russia, but every so often I dab in some of the English and related. I didn't know Edward I issued coins in France. I guess old dogs like me can learn new tricks after all ;D. Thanks for sharing.
~Daniel
I could be wrong, but I think that these were minted at Bordeaux while England still held land in France. There were several other similar issues minted in Aquitaine for English kings, including Richard I and Henry II.
Post by: FilthyBroke on July 06, 2011, 02:35:00 PM
And how about some French feudal coinage? This is a denier of the Bishops of Valence, dating around the 12th century (though I've seen similar examples dated to the 13th century) -
(http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc184/Sallythedog/BishopsofValenceFrancedenier.jpg)
Post by: FilthyBroke on July 07, 2011, 11:51:40 AM
Anglo-Gallic Edward I deier au leopard (1st type).
(http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc184/Sallythedog/Anglo-GallicEdwardI.jpg)
Post by: coinsarefun on July 07, 2011, 07:12:41 PM
As if I can't focus as is it. Now I have to look at finding a few ;D
Post by: Deagle74 on July 08, 2011, 01:29:13 AM
R.
Post by: FilthyBroke on July 08, 2011, 12:46:07 PM
Stefanie, what is this "focus" of which you speak? ;)
Post by: coinsarefun on July 08, 2011, 01:49:26 PM
Thanks, it's about time I got back to collecting these, I've put it on hold for so long now. Now I need to find another Spink guide, I sold mine a while back.
Stefanie, what is this "focus" of which you speak? ;)
LMAO as if I can focus
Actually maybe I do focus.......any coin that has toning on is my focus........lol
Post by: Zantetsuken on July 08, 2011, 06:40:13 PM
~Daniel
Post by: FilthyBroke on July 16, 2011, 08:01:52 PM
Here's a Henry II tealby penny (Winchester mint). Named the tealby penny after a hoard found in 1807 at Tealby, Lincolnshire, these coins are notoriously crude and poorly struck, until the short-cross pennies replaced them in 1180. Most interesting to me is the story of the power struggle between King Henry II and Thomas Becket. It's a cool story if you have time to read about it.:)
(http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc184/Sallythedog/HenryIItealbys141winchesterhosbertmoneyer.jpg)
Post by: Zantetsuken on July 17, 2011, 09:38:53 PM
Here's a Henry II tealby penny (Winchester mint). Named the tealby penny after a hoard found in 1807 at Tealby, Lincolnshire, these coins are notoriously crude and poorly struck, until the short-cross pennies replaced them in 1180. Most interesting to me is the story of the power struggle between King Henry II and Thomas Becket. It's a cool story if you have time to read about it.:)
(http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc184/Sallythedog/HenryIItealbys141winchesterhosbertmoneyer.jpg)
Interesting coin 'FilthyBroke'. Considering how crude some of the coins were, one has to wonder if the ones who minted them had been hitting the rum a bit hard ;D. However, crude minting wasn't just restricted to the ancient and medieval period. Here are a couple examples of very crude modern age coins. The first is 10 Tenge from the EMIRATE OF BUKHARA dated 1337 AH/1919 AD, the second is 200 Cash from the SZECHUAN-SHENSI SOVIET dated 1933. Considering, how crudely these were struck, you'd think these would 500 years or older.
(http://i706.photobucket.com/albums/ww65/samuraisedge/BUKHARAEMIRATE10Tenge1337AH1919AD-1.jpg)
BUKHARA (EMIRATE)~10 Tenge 1337 AH/1919 AD
(http://i706.photobucket.com/albums/ww65/samuraisedge/SZECHUAN-SHENSISOVIET200CashRetrograded1933.jpg)
SZECHUAN-SHENSI SOVIET~200 Cash 1933
Post by: FilthyBroke on July 18, 2011, 05:47:15 AM
Here's another tealby penny that I got last week, now I just need to decide which one of the two to keep...which do you like better?
(http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc184/Sallythedog/DSCF1219.jpg)(http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc184/Sallythedog/DSCF1223.jpg)
Post by: Zantetsuken on July 18, 2011, 07:46:40 AM
They do look much older than that. I wouldn't have thought that poor coining was an issue in such modern times. Well, at least the planchets are still round. These tealbys are some of the worst I've seen, even worse than the civil war era coinage of Stephen and Henry I.
Here's another tealby penny that I got last week, now I just need to decide which one of the two to keep...which do you like better?
(http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc184/Sallythedog/DSCF1219.jpg)(http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc184/Sallythedog/DSCF1223.jpg)
True that. The reason might be was these were minted in the rural areas of Asia where they didn't have modern equipment. The one from Szechuan Shensi, was issued during Mao's first and failed attempt to bring communism to China. Due to the instabilty of the region, these could have been minted in a barn for all we know.
As for choosing which Tealby coin to keep, I think you should keep the first one. It has slightly, although not much, better detail on the obverse side. Just my opinion though. You're right. These are definitely among the poorest quality coins I've seen. Even for medieval coins. Certainly reflects the minting facilities they had at the time.
~Daniel
Post by: wolfkill on July 18, 2011, 05:10:32 PM
Post by: FilthyBroke on July 18, 2011, 05:18:04 PM
:agree; :agree; :agree; :agree;i dont like it
Ok, I'm going to have to ask for a little deeper explanation, though. What is it that you don't like about it?
Post by: coinsarefun on July 18, 2011, 05:23:45 PM
:agree; :agree; :agree; :agree;i dont like it
Ok, I'm going to have to ask for a little deeper explanation, though. What is it that you don't like about it?
That's what I was wondering, what's not to like :smiley-signs002:
Post by: FilthyBroke on July 18, 2011, 05:30:38 PM
That's what I was wondering, what's not to like :smiley-signs002:
These coins are full of history, ugly as they are....well, not ugly to me as I see a distant past with the men who helped to build today's society. The struggle of church and state, the events leading up to the Magna Carta, and just plain medieval lore can be quite interesting and entertaining.
Post by: Zantetsuken on July 28, 2011, 08:26:52 PM
Post by: coinsarefun on July 28, 2011, 08:37:40 PM
Not even my area, but saw this and loved the toning
(http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u312/coinarefun/1859GBPennytonedwallpaper.jpg)
Post by: Zantetsuken on July 28, 2011, 08:45:40 PM
Post by: Zantetsuken on July 28, 2011, 08:48:17 PM
~Daniel
Post by: coinsarefun on July 28, 2011, 09:13:19 PM
The next is a silver wire Kopek from RUSSIA (NOVGOROD) dating from 1533-1547. Issued under Grand Duke: Ivan Rurik IV~The Terrible. Ivan IV held two titles during his life. He reigned as a Grand Duke from 1533-1547, then as a Tsar from 1547 until his death 1584. There are numerous coins attributed to Ivan the Terrible under both titles.RUSSIA (NOVGOROD)~AR Kopek 1533-1547
Now this is beyond :signcool; :signcool;.......I love it!!
Post by: FilthyBroke on July 30, 2011, 06:55:32 PM
Is the German piece steel? That's a good looking coin. :ThumbsUp;
Post by: Zantetsuken on July 30, 2011, 07:03:36 PM
That's a nice strong portrait on the wire money, I've seen a couple before but couldn't make out what the obverse design was on them. Cool find!
Is the German piece steel? That's a good looking coin. :ThumbsUp;
Thanks 'FilthyBroke'. The wire coin is definitely a better strike than normally found for these, especially on the reverse. As for the German coin, it's made of zinc. This too is a better grade than normally found for zinc coins. As most of us know, zinc along with time and the elements are not exactly good bed fellows. This one is an upgrade to one I posted earlier which had a very rough surface.
~Daniel
Post by: FilthyBroke on July 30, 2011, 07:26:42 PM
Post by: Zantetsuken on July 31, 2011, 05:11:01 AM
Ah, zinc... the look reminds me of the steel Lincolns of the war era.
I didn't really think about it at first, but your right. The steel Lincoln head pennies did look like zinc with the toning. It looks like neither of these ores hold up well to the elements. Iron is another one. I have a couple of iron coins from Germany and German occupied territories of World War I. They rust easily and look horrible if exposed to too much moisture.
~Daniel
Post by: Zantetsuken on August 06, 2011, 08:04:50 PM
Post by: coinsarefun on August 07, 2011, 11:21:19 AM
Nice piece
I was hoping to add some nice Eussin coins to my collection because Stacks has a few nice things next week, but the ones I wanted to bid on are already 3x's the price!
Post by: Zantetsuken on August 07, 2011, 12:15:22 PM
I didn't know you collect moderns?......lol
Nice piece
I was hoping to add some nice Eussin coins to my collection because Stacks has a few nice things next week, but the ones I wanted to bid on are already 3x's the price!
Thanks Stef, I'm glad you like it. It's true that I mainly deal in the older coins, but every so often, I find a modern coin that captures my interest. I found this to be a very attractive piece, so picked it up on Ebay. I had another fairly recent one from Serbia in the amount of 5,000 gold Dinaras. I'm expecting another one from Russia dated 2003 within the week. I'll post it as soon as it arrives.
~Daniel
Post by: coinsarefun on August 07, 2011, 02:29:01 PM
Post by: FilthyBroke on August 07, 2011, 05:05:21 PM
Post by: Zantetsuken on August 07, 2011, 06:43:08 PM
That's a cool design. Are these made to circulate? I don't have any Chinese coins yet, so I know very little about them.
Thanks 'FilthyBroke'. I think this might be a utilitarian coin, although the surface has a proof-like finish. It's has historic importance, since China is the last significant communist nation left in the world. The design is definitely interesting though, for a more or less, failed ideology.
Post by: Zantetsuken on August 17, 2011, 10:11:52 AM
Post by: coinsarefun on August 17, 2011, 10:41:47 AM
Looking as their older coinage but I like this design.
I also heard that the price of Russian modern proof and mint sets have
gone up very high in prices, sometimes 5-10 x's in value......have you seen
or heard about this? I wonder what is causing the sudden interest?
Post by: Zantetsuken on August 17, 2011, 08:33:33 PM
Nice one, it's a very pretty proof. Many of the Russian moderns are not as nice
Looking as their older coinage but I like this design.
I also heard that the price of Russian modern proof and mint sets have
gone up very high in prices, sometimes 5-10 x's in value......have you seen
or heard about this? I wonder what is causing the sudden interest?
Thanks Stef, I'm glad you like it. I was happy how this image came out. I usually have a hard time trying to get image when photographing proof coins due to the glare that results.
I'm not sure why exactly modern Russian proof coins are getting so expensive, but your right for some of these are getting steep. It's not just modern proofs either. Many of the more historic issues are getting pricier too. Fortunately, I got some of the key items before the market went through the ceiling.
Post by: coinsarefun on August 17, 2011, 08:38:07 PM
I am so dissapointed that the Stacks Auctions were astronomical ???
I wanted that beard token sooooo bad. Its over 3 x's the expected price :'(
Post by: Zantetsuken on August 17, 2011, 08:51:32 PM
Since you brought up the older scarcer pieces. ;D
I am so dissapointed that the Stacks Auctions were astronomical ???
I wanted that beard token sooooo bad. Its over 3 x's the expected price :'(
I feel your pain Stef, more than you can possibly fathom. I've had items I've bid on from Ebay that I wanted bad, just to have it ripped from my grasp. It can be agonizing, but I guess that's the gamble involved with auctions. However, fate has thrown me a bone every so often. I got these three items below, at fairly decent price. Usually this would cost a small fortune to aquire.
[Limit reached]ARMAVIR (MUNICIPAL)~3 Ruble Type 1 1918
[Limit reached]ARMAVIR (MUNICIPAL)~5 Ruble 1918
[Limit reached]SIBERIA (REGIONAL)~10 Kopek 1781
Post by: coinsarefun on August 17, 2011, 09:04:17 PM
Since you brought up the older scarcer pieces. ;D
I am so dissapointed that the Stacks Auctions were astronomical ???
I wanted that beard token sooooo bad. Its over 3 x's the expected price :'(
I feel your pain Stef, more than you can possibly fathom. I've had items I've bid on from Ebay that I wanted bad, just to have it ripped from my grasp. It can be agonizing, but I guess that's the gamble involved with auctions. However, fate has thrown me a bone every so often. I got these three items below, at fairly decent price. Usually this would cost a small fortune to aquire.
[Limit reached]ARMAVIR (MUNICIPAL)~3 Ruble Type 1 1918
[Limit reached]ARMAVIR (MUNICIPAL)~5 Ruble 1918
[Limit reached]SIBERIA (REGIONAL)~10 Kopek 1781
Wow!!! those are beautiful and its great that you got them at a fair price.
That's icing on the cake Happy(*)
Post by: FilthyBroke on August 18, 2011, 05:32:59 PM
Things are getting very busy around here, but I got a chance to photograph this new jeton this afternoon -
Agents de Change, 1898. Oscar Roty design-
(http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc184/Sallythedog/DSCF1322.jpg)
Post by: Zantetsuken on August 19, 2011, 05:23:43 AM
Wow, I've been falling behind here! I really like that proof, Daniel.
Things are getting very busy around here, but I got a chance to photograph this new jeton this afternoon -
Agents de Change, 1898. Oscar Roty design-
(http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc184/Sallythedog/DSCF1322.jpg)
Love the medal 'FilthyBroke'. I know where your coming from, as I've been busy myself. On July 29th, my 87 year old father fell and hit his head, so he was he was in the hospital for over a week. Since then, I haven't bought as much as I usually do. I still want to stay in the loop as much as possible.
Post by: FilthyBroke on August 19, 2011, 05:52:45 AM
My collecting has slowed considerably right now and I'm selling a lot of stuff, but I check the boards daily to see what everyone is up to.
Post by: Zantetsuken on August 19, 2011, 07:13:22 AM
I hope your father is alright. I start to worry about things like that here with my parents getting older and none of the kids living close by.
My collecting has slowed considerably right now and I'm selling a lot of stuff, but I check the boards daily to see what everyone is up to.
I see your almost in the same boat as me. My biggest worry is that my father has gotten very lazy, and doesn't want to do anything anymore. I know he's 87, but he needs to do more, before his legs become completely useless. :( In any case, it's great hearing from you again. I hope we can see more of your items in the future. Good luck.
Post by: FilthyBroke on September 01, 2011, 10:05:57 AM
We're moving (again), and I've been selling a good deal of stuff to help with expenses. We're hoping to be in the new house in a week or two, maybe after that things will calm back down a bit.
Post by: Zantetsuken on September 02, 2011, 11:09:22 AM
[Limit reached]CROATIA (INDEPENDENT STATE)~50 Kuna *PROOF*1934
Post by: FilthyBroke on September 03, 2011, 03:56:49 PM
And wouldn't you know it, just as I'm in full non-purchasing mode, a really tough one turns up in a cgb email. Of course, I had to jump on the opportunity, but I'm hoping they can get it here while I'm still at this address. :( I'll post pics when it arrives.
Post by: Zantetsuken on September 03, 2011, 06:39:35 PM
[Limit reached]CROATIA (INDEPENDENT STATE)~2 Kune 1941
Post by: FilthyBroke on September 04, 2011, 01:10:13 PM
We're actually excited to be moving, as this time we'll be owning rather than renting. Tons of work, planning, phone calls... but we're ready to get this done! :)
Post by: coinsarefun on September 04, 2011, 01:24:02 PM
I'd look up the grenade or bomb versions, they sound interesting.
We're actually excited to be moving, as this time we'll be owning rather than renting. Tons of work, planning, phone calls... but we're ready to get this done! :)
Good luck on your move I hope its a relatively smooth transition.
I also hope you will be able to stay there for sometime to come!
Post by: Zantetsuken on September 04, 2011, 05:36:26 PM
I'd look up the grenade or bomb versions, they sound interesting.
We're actually excited to be moving, as this time we'll be owning rather than renting. Tons of work, planning, phone calls... but we're ready to get this done! :)
Actually, I don't think the bomb/grenade was included on the coin (not to my knowledge). The bomb/grenade was depicted sometimes inside the monogram, on top of the state arms, on other items. In either case, it is indeed interesting in that it's rare that explosives are depicted on an official coat of arms.
I'm happy for you that you're finally getting what you want, and are able to hopefully settle in. I wish you luck.
Post by: FilthyBroke on September 05, 2011, 12:49:27 PM
And I can't wait for my newp to arrive, I've been looking for this particular design for about two years now!
Hint - it's out of this world! ;D :D
Post by: FilthyBroke on September 15, 2011, 04:57:13 PM
And during the move, my new purchase arrived! I mentioned it would be "out of this world", what do you think? ;D
1648 Bourgogne, one of two infamous "UFO jetons", this is one I've wanted to find for over two years now. You'd be surprised at just how uncommon some of the "common" jetons can be.
(http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc184/Sallythedog/1648Bourgognenouvellesleveesdefonds-Copy.jpg)
Post by: coinsarefun on September 15, 2011, 06:53:20 PM
Post by: Zantetsuken on October 15, 2011, 06:32:56 PM
[Limit reached]WESTFALEN (REGIONAL)~50,000,000 Mark 1923
Post by: coinsarefun on October 16, 2011, 05:10:11 AM
Now I need to buy a copy stand and I'm in business ;)
Old image
(http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u312/coinarefun/Conder%20Tokens/SuffolkDH35-1.jpg)
New Image
(http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u312/coinarefun/Conder%20Tokens/ipswitchconderstoken.jpg)
Post by: Zantetsuken on October 16, 2011, 06:31:00 AM
New image same coin, but with a new camera.
Now I need to buy a copy stand and I'm in business ;)
Old image
(http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u312/coinarefun/Conder%20Tokens/SuffolkDH35-1.jpg)
New Image
(http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u312/coinarefun/Conder%20Tokens/ipswitchconderstoken.jpg)
Very nice Stef. Both images are nice in their own right. The toning in the first image looks more robust, where the second is more subtle. What kind of camera did you use?
I've been slowly updating my images by using the same camera, but changing the lighting type. Initially, I used just a desk lamp for lighting which created a warmer toning but the focus was off. Now I've used either just a flash for white and blue metals, or combo of desk lamp and flash for red and yellow metals. The images are sharper, however, the toning isn't quite as robust on the red and yellow metals. What's your take on this?
~Daniel
Post by: FilthyBroke on October 16, 2011, 06:42:15 PM
Post by: Zantetsuken on October 16, 2011, 07:12:03 PM
Hey Daniel, nice to see you back. Do you have much luck at flea markets? I personally haven't seen much as far as world coins locally so far, but there are tons of Morgans and overpriced gold at the Raleigh flea market. I always wondered about our small-time local flea markets and yard sales though.
Thanks 'FilthyBroke', it's nice to be back. I don't know if I'll post as much as before though. I have alot of expenses to square away since my dad passed, so not much will go into coins.
Flea markets used to be a good source for foreign coins, but not any more. This is probably due to the internet being a prime source for sales. However, fate throws me a bone every now and again. Also, flea markets aren't as plentiful as they were 20+ years ago. Not in my area at any rate. Pity. :(
Post by: Zantetsuken on January 21, 2012, 10:20:42 AM
[Limit reached]GERMANY (THIRD REICH)~50 Reichspfennig 'Kantinegeld' 1939