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US Coins, World Coins, and More => World and Ancient Coins, Conder tokens and medals => Topic started by: coinsarefun on June 29, 2009, 02:27:12 AM

Title: World and Ancient Coins
Post by: coinsarefun on June 29, 2009, 02:27:12 AM
Please share your stories,knowledge and expertise you have gained in all the years of collecting regarding World and and Ancient Coinage

Give us reasons why you started collecting and share any tips you may have.


Stefanie
Title: Re: World and Ancient Coins
Post by: walmann on July 03, 2009, 09:36:08 AM
Until recently the only other world coins I had collected were German and Sierra Leonan coins, as these were two countries that I had lived in for more than a few months.

But the Britannia, especially the proofs, have caused me to go further into the darkside and in fact the two areas I now concentrate on are the British Britannia and Sovergeins in addition to US proof platinums.

When I get a chance I'll post some photos of these most addictive coins.
Title: Re: World and Ancient Coins
Post by: Zantetsuken on July 12, 2009, 08:27:47 PM
I've been collecting coins since I was 9 years old. I started with inexpensive American coins, then branched out into foreign coins. I collect anything that is unique or strikes my interest, but my main focus is coins from the Russian sphere and Eastern Europe (both medieval and modern). Soon I'll try to post some of my interesting specimens that I have from the Medieval Balkans.
Title: Re: World and Ancient Coins
Post by: walmann on July 21, 2009, 12:00:59 PM
Here is a design the reminds me of some great medals and commemoratives from years gone by.
2009 Austrian 10 Euro, not bad a for a modern.

(http://images.fwbookstore.com/popup/Z7091.jpg)
Title: Re: World and Ancient Coins
Post by: Zantetsuken on July 22, 2009, 12:15:02 AM
Here is a design the reminds me of some great medals and commemoratives from years gone by.
2009 Austrian 10 Euro, not bad a for a modern.

(http://images.fwbookstore.com/popup/Z7091.jpg)
That's a sweet looking coin. It looks similar to some of the crown coins from Medieval Europe with it's elaborate detail. Thanks for sharing.
Title: Re: World and Ancient Coins
Post by: ormandh on July 22, 2009, 10:01:07 AM
I started collecting world coins after becoming a member of the Collector Universe forums on the PCGS site. Before I was interested in this sector of collecting, I was interested in US issues. I started to come across these neat issues from other countries, which intrigued me. I soon realized that it was much more satisfying to focus on obscure issues from foreign countries and sometime thereafter I started to sell off my US collection and focus primarily on this newfound area of numismatics! You gotta love it! -Dan
Title: Re: World and Ancient Coins
Post by: walmann on July 22, 2009, 10:30:05 AM
I started collecting world coins after becoming a member of the Collector Universe forums on the PCGS site. Before I was interested in this sector of collecting, I was interested in US issues. I started to come across these neat issues from other countries, which intrigued me. I soon realized that it was much more satisfying to focus on obscure issues from foreign countries and sometime thereafter I started to sell off my US collection and focus primarily on this newfound area of numismatics! You gotta love it! -Dan

Sounds like the track I may be taking. The design element is really drawing me to a number of world issues. Except for some exceptional US designs, such as many of the Platinum issues as well as numerous medals, I have lost much interest in persuing series collection.

I'd rather enjoy the beauty of individual coin then persue accumulating every issue of  most series.
Title: Re: World and Ancient Coins
Post by: Zantetsuken on July 23, 2009, 10:08:25 PM
I started collecting world coins after becoming a member of the Collector Universe forums on the PCGS site. Before I was interested in this sector of collecting, I was interested in US issues. I started to come across these neat issues from other countries, which intrigued me. I soon realized that it was much more satisfying to focus on obscure issues from foreign countries and sometime thereafter I started to sell off my US collection and focus primarily on this newfound area of numismatics! You gotta love it! -Dan

I'm with you on this. I started collecting inexpensive US coins when I was 9 years old, then branched into foreign when my father gave me a can of foreign coins that he got from his father. I then started to focus on coins from Russia and Eastern Europe. I was lucky I started collecting Russian coins early on, because they are starting to get very expensive and the demand is high for certain pieces. Currently, I'm hunting coins from the medieval Balkans which in my opinion is a very fascinating area. They have some very interesting and beautiful patterns.
Title: Re: World and Ancient Coins
Post by: coinsarefun on July 25, 2009, 12:37:55 AM
I agree, world coins have some very cool designs.
US coinage just doesn't have the artistic flair





(http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u312/coinarefun/Darkside/70d0f636.jpg)


(http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u312/coinarefun/Darkside/b59b7725.jpg)


(http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u312/coinarefun/Darkside/a65a2c6d.jpg)


(http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u312/coinarefun/Darkside/1958India10PaiseAlumin.jpg)
Title: Re: World and Ancient Coins
Post by: Zantetsuken on July 25, 2009, 02:14:01 AM
I agree, world coins have some very cool designs.
US coinage just doesn't have the artistic flair

Exactly. That's one of the reasons I got away from American coins. They used the same pattern for years at a time to the point that it's dull and boring. Another reason I got away from American coins was because of the outrageous prices some of the dealers charged for even the low grade coins. As you stated, world coins often have very interesting and varying patterns. By the way, nice coins you've got posted. I especially love the tropical fish design on the Barbados coin, and elephants on the coin from Rhodesia & Nyasaland. Thanks for sharing.



(http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u312/coinarefun/Darkside/70d0f636.jpg)


(http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u312/coinarefun/Darkside/b59b7725.jpg)


(http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u312/coinarefun/Darkside/a65a2c6d.jpg)


(http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u312/coinarefun/Darkside/1958India10PaiseAlumin.jpg)
Title: Re: World and Ancient Coins
Post by: FilthyBroke on July 27, 2009, 08:19:33 PM
I'm with some of the others, I started out with U.S. coins but quickly my interests have expanded to encompass many broader areas including hammered English coins, Spanish colonials, etc.  I've sold the majority of my U.S. collection to expand, without regret. :)
Title: Re: World and Ancient Coins
Post by: coinsarefun on July 28, 2009, 01:34:07 AM
I'm with some of the others, I started out with U.S. coins but quickly my interests have expanded to encompass many broader areas including hammered English coins, Spanish colonials, etc.  I've sold the majority of my U.S. collection to expand, without regret. :)






Well, lets see some images ;D
Title: Re: World and Ancient Coins
Post by: regandon on July 28, 2009, 07:44:48 PM
Being a historian of 16th to 18th century Europe, I only collect European coins. I've wrote many articles on collecting European coins, and I'm buliding an info. site to help collectors that collect 16th to 20th century European coins.
Title: Re: World and Ancient Coins
Post by: FilthyBroke on July 29, 2009, 06:41:35 PM
I'm with some of the others, I started out with U.S. coins but quickly my interests have expanded to encompass many broader areas including hammered English coins, Spanish colonials, etc.  I've sold the majority of my U.S. collection to expand, without regret. :)






Well, lets see some images ;D

Ok, I'll start off with Henry VIII

(http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc184/Sallythedog/DSC09021.jpg)

Sorry it's not the best picture.  In fact, here's another coin, much better pic-

(http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc184/Sallythedog/DSC00219.jpg)

I know, I'm all over the map, but I'm having fun! ;D
Title: Re: World and Ancient Coins
Post by: HistoricCoinage on August 01, 2009, 02:58:31 PM
I thought I'd join this forum, I've been watching this site for a while but finally took the leap to join.

I'm a fairly serious collector of English hammered coins with a specific focus on Anglo-Saxon pence whilst extending to include the earlier Anglo-Saxon stycas and sceats as well as Norman and Plantagenet pence.

I look forward to getting to know people and their collections.

Kindest Regards,

Clive.

P.S. Here are a few of my coins which I have photos available of.

(http://www.historiccoinage.com/collection/coins/27929Irish1.jpg)
(http://www.historiccoinage.com/collection/coins/92864Brooch2.jpg)
(http://i492.photobucket.com/albums/rr286/HistoricCoinage/Will1.jpg)(http://i492.photobucket.com/albums/rr286/HistoricCoinage/Eadwig1.jpg)

Title: Re: World and Ancient Coins
Post by: FilthyBroke on August 01, 2009, 04:37:23 PM
Welcome, Clive! Glad you signed up.  I sure like those Anglo-Saxon coins.  I have this one from a while back, but hope to add to soon to my small hammered collection.

(http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc184/Sallythedog/EdwardtheConfessor-Copy.jpg)

Title: Re: World and Ancient Coins
Post by: Zantetsuken on August 02, 2009, 10:28:20 AM
Nice English and Anglo-Saxon coins folks. Here are three from collection. While there not as nice as some of the ones posted here, I find them of historic interest.

1-2) England AR Penny 1216-1272 AD- Under King: Henry III
3-4) England AR Penny 1272-1307 AD- Under King Edward I
5-6) Great Britain AR Groat 1547-1551 AD- Under King: Henry VIII
Title: Re: World and Ancient Coins
Post by: HistoricCoinage on August 02, 2009, 12:17:36 PM
Zantetsuken, that is, what appears to be, a rather nice class 3b Nicole on Canterbury penny you have there!  ;)

I also like the clear portrait of Old Coppernose, scarce to see in such decent condition!

Kindest Regards,

Clive.
Title: Re: World and Ancient Coins
Post by: Zantetsuken on August 03, 2009, 04:23:31 PM
Zantetsuken, that is, what appears to be, a rather nice class 3b Nicole on Canterbury penny you have there!  ;)

I also like the clear portrait of Old Coppernose, scarce to see in such decent condition!

Kindest Regards,

Clive.

Thanks Clive. You have some real beauties in your collection too. Is that first coin from Ireland? I'm not an expert in the area of Anglo-Saxon coinage, but I've seen medieval Irish coins with patterns similar to the you have listed. Correct me if I'm wrong on this.

Best Regards.

~ Daniel
Title: Re: World and Ancient Coins
Post by: HistoricCoinage on August 03, 2009, 05:52:49 PM
Daniel,

The first coin is an Irish penny of King Henry III, Davi on Dublin, Class Ib. You are right in the fact that the triangle is a sign of Irish coinage in this late Medieval era.  :)

The second is a penny of Edward the Confessor gilded and made into an extravagant brooch for a person of considerable wealth.

The third is a penny of William the Conqueror and the fourth is a penny of King Eadwig.

Kindest Regards,

Clive.
Title: Re: World and Ancient Coins
Post by: Zantetsuken on August 03, 2009, 10:06:44 PM
Daniel,

The first coin is an Irish penny of King Henry III, Davi on Dublin, Class Ib. You are right in the fact that the triangle is a sign of Irish coinage in this late Medieval era.  :)

The second is a penny of Edward the Confessor gilded and made into an extravagant brooch for a person of considerable wealth.

The third is a penny of William the Conqueror and the fourth is a penny of King Eadwig.

Kindest Regards,

Clive.

Beautiful coins Clive. Especially the ones from William the Conqueror and Eadwig. They have very sharp detailing and are well-centered for coins of this era. My specialty is coins from Eastern Europe and the Balkan region.  Here are a few examples of mine.

(http://i706.photobucket.com/albums/ww65/samuraisedge/BohemiaARDinar1061-1086AD.jpg)

BOHEMIA (DUCHY)~AR Denar 1061-1086 AD- Under Duke/Prince: Vratislav II

(http://i706.photobucket.com/albums/ww65/samuraisedge/SerbianEmpireARDinar1371-1389AD.jpg)

SERBIAN EMPIRE~AR Dinar 1371-1389 AD- Under Prince: Lazar Hrebeljanovic

(http://i706.photobucket.com/albums/ww65/samuraisedge/BosniaBanateARDinar1322-1353AD.jpg)

BOSNIA (BANATE)~AR Dinar 1322-1353 AD- Under Ban: Stjepan Kotromanic II

(http://i706.photobucket.com/albums/ww65/samuraisedge/WallachiaARDucat1386-1418AD.jpg)

WALLACHIA (PRINCIPALITY)~(AR Ducat 1386-1418 AD- Under Prince: Mircea~The Elder

The coin from Wallachia holds a particular historic interest in that Mircea was the grandfather of Prince: Vlad Tepes III~The Impaler (AKA-Count Dracula).

Best Regards.

~ Daniel
Title: Re: World and Ancient Coins
Post by: HistoricCoinage on August 04, 2009, 04:36:44 AM
Daniel,

Wow! Some superb coins you have shown. I especially like number two, it reminds me of the Venetian Grossos.

I haven't seen many of these types of coins so many thanks for sharing.

Kindest Regards,

Clive.
Title: Re: World and Ancient Coins
Post by: Zantetsuken on August 04, 2009, 10:06:29 AM
Daniel,

Wow! Some superb coins you have shown. I especially like number two, it reminds me of the Venetian Grossos.

I haven't seen many of these types of coins so many thanks for sharing.

Kindest Regards,

I'm glad you liked them.  As you mentioned, the Serbian coin resembled the Ventian Grosso coins. In fact many of the early issues from Serbia, before gaining imperial status, were almost identical to either Venetian of Byzantine coins.  I have a special thread titled 'Medieval Balkan Coins' in this forum. You can check this out as it has more details about each of the rulers and the coins minted.

Best regards.

~ Daniel
Clive.
Title: Re: World and Ancient Coins
Post by: musky1011 on August 04, 2009, 08:36:21 PM
It has the "look"
(http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l249/musky1011/Picture065.jpg)
(http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l249/musky1011/Picture066.jpg)
Title: Re: World and Ancient Coins
Post by: Zantetsuken on August 05, 2009, 06:54:56 AM
Nice 'musky1011'. They are the only commemorative coins (along with the 2 Reichsmark companion) during the Third Reich where the Nazi party symbol is boldly marked on the coat of arms. Most of the others have just the German eagle but no party symbols. The one commemorating the Postdam Garrison Church had two small swastikas marked in the corner of the coin, but it wasn't included in the official state arms. Thanks for sharing.
Title: Re: World and Ancient Coins
Post by: Zantetsuken on August 06, 2009, 06:15:41 PM
Here are a few scarce coins from the Third Reich. The first is 50 Reichspfennig coin dated 1939 E, nickel variety. The nickel variety was only a 2-year type struck in 1938 and 1939, and rarer than the aluminum variety. The following two are are 5 and 10 Reichspfennig military coins both dated 1940. The military issues were also 2-year types struck in 1940-1941, and were only circulated in German occupied territories. The last specimen is a 10 Reichspfennig general issue coin dated 1945. While most of the zinc coins issued for Nazi Germany were very common, the 1945 issues are very scarce due to them being minted just before the reich's collapse. There were only two mints that struck coins in 1945 and in two denominations. A= Berlin and E= Muldenhutten, Muldenhutten being the rarer issue of the two, and struck in 1 and 10 Reichspfennig denominations.

(http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/7370/germany50reichspfennign.jpg) (http://img25.imageshack.us/i/germany50reichspfennign.jpg/)

Germany~50 Reichspfennig (Nickel) 1939 E- Mint: Muldenhutten

(http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/3597/germanymilitary5reichsp.jpg) (http://img25.imageshack.us/i/germanymilitary5reichsp.jpg/)

Germany (Military)~5 Reichspfennig 1940 D- Mint: Munich

(http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/796/germany10reichspfennigm.jpg) (http://img10.imageshack.us/i/germany10reichspfennigm.jpg/)

Germany (Military)~10 Reichspfennig 1940 A- Mint: Berlin

(http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/8222/germany10reichspfennig1.jpg) (http://img10.imageshack.us/i/germany10reichspfennig1.jpg/)

Germany~10 Reichspfennig 1945 A- Mint: Berlin

Note: Mint marks for military issues determine the rarity for both denominations. While all types are difficult to aquire, coins minted outside Berlin are even rarer. 1941 issues were only minted in Berlin and Stuttgart, and range in price from $300-$15,000 depending on grade,denomination and mint mark.
Title: Re: World and Ancient Coins
Post by: Zantetsuken on August 29, 2009, 10:03:31 PM
Here are two coins from the islands of RHODES under the Order of the Knights of St. John. The first is a silver Gigliato issued under Grandmaster: Juan Fernandez de Heredia 1376-1396 AD. This was overstruck on a coin issued by the previous grandmaster Robert d'Anjou. The second is silver Gigliato issued under Grandmaster: Philabert de Naillac 1396-1421 AD. The Knights of St. John were assigned to protect Rhodes during the crusades from the Ottoman Empire which had threatened Southeastern Europe. It's operation in Rhodes ran from 1310-1523, later they were stationed in Malta from 1530-1798.

(http://i706.photobucket.com/albums/ww65/samuraisedge/RhodesARGigliato1376-1396AD.jpg)

RHODES~AR Gigliato 1376-1396 AD

(http://i706.photobucket.com/albums/ww65/samuraisedge/RhodesARGigliato1396-1421AD.jpg)

RHODES~AR Gigliato 1396-1421 AD
Title: Re: World and Ancient Coins
Post by: Zantetsuken on September 14, 2009, 01:09:25 AM
Here are a couple of coins that were issued under Venetian sovereignty. The first is a gold Zecchino from Chios. This was issued during the reign of Doge/Duke: Philip Maria Visconti 1415-1436 AD. The second is a copper Fallaro from Cattaro (now Kotor, Montenegro) 1569-1571. The Venetian Republic had a strong influence on the Adriatic coast and in the Aegean region before most of the Balkans were conquered by the Ottoman Empire.

(http://i706.photobucket.com/albums/ww65/samuraisedge/ChiosAVZecchino1415-1436AD.jpg)

CHIOS~AV Zecchino 1415-1436 AD

(http://i706.photobucket.com/albums/ww65/samuraisedge/CattaroAEFallaro1569-1571.jpg)

CATTARO (MUNICIPAL)~AE Fallaro 1569-1571