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US Coins, World Coins, and More => World and Ancient Coins, Conder tokens and medals => Topic started by: Larry on November 12, 2009, 05:24:38 AM

Title: Conder Token, Middlesex DH 860, Shepherd/Stag
Post by: Larry on November 12, 2009, 05:24:38 AM

This is Middlesex 860, a halfpenny Conder Token from dies engraved by Thomas Spence. 

He was obviously a great artisan. 

I really enjoy this token.  : )



(http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g254/Larrymo123/after%208-9-09/FlattenedMidd860WOWWOOWOO1024.jpg)

Title: Re: Conder Token, Middlesex DH 860, Shepherd/Stag
Post by: coinsarefun on November 12, 2009, 02:59:52 PM

I love this one Larry, it has such great detail and cool theme :)

I like the guy just kickin' back under a tree :ThumbsUp;

Title: Re: Conder Token, Middlesex DH 860, Shepherd/Stag
Post by: BCNumismatics on November 12, 2009, 04:53:40 PM

Larry,
  Very nice coin you've got there.

What's the inscription on the edge?

Aidan.

Title: Re: Conder Token, Middlesex DH 860, Shepherd/Stag
Post by: Conderluva on November 12, 2009, 07:18:56 PM

Nice piece Larry.  A great photograph too!
One note on the description...Spence himself was not known to be a die sinker, only a manufacturer/issuer of tokens.  Most of his dies (if not all) were cut by James or Jacobs, both of London.

Title: Re: Conder Token, Middlesex DH 860, Shepherd/Stag
Post by: FilthyBroke on November 12, 2009, 07:33:43 PM

That's a nice one, Larry!  Cool design.

Title: Re: Conder Token, Middlesex DH 860, Shepherd/Stag
Post by: walmann on November 12, 2009, 09:26:12 PM

That is one fine piece of art.

Another one added to the want list.

Title: This token has a plain edge.
Post by: Larry on November 13, 2009, 06:29:16 AM

Thanks for the information about its possible designer/engraver, Conderluva.  I've revised the text in the image below.

This token has a plain edge, Aidan.  : )

I try to mention the edge inscription when a token has raised or incuse lettering and/or design.

I forgot to mention it.  Thanks.  : )


(http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g254/Larrymo123/after%208-9-09/SpecialMidd860Revised1024.jpg)

Title: Conder Token, Middlesex DH 860, Shepherd/Stag.
Post by: BCNumismatics on November 15, 2009, 01:39:01 PM

Larry,
  I saw one example of Thomas Spence's extremely political 1/2d.s over here in New Zealand,which I tried to buy.

Despite its anti-monarchist theme,I would have still bought it just for the historical interest,even though I am from a very fiercely Royalist family myself.

Aidan.

Title: Re: Conder Token, Middlesex DH 860, Shepherd/Stag
Post by: regandon on November 16, 2009, 05:49:26 AM

That is an outstanding design. Nice one

Title: Re: Conder Token, Middlesex DH 860, Shepherd/Stag
Post by: Conderluva on November 16, 2009, 08:35:08 PM

Here's a fairly new acquisition. Buck 7c in 'as fine as they come' condition. I'm very satisfied with this one.
(http://condertokens.net/images/Buck7c-obv.JPG)(http://condertokens.net/images/Buck7c-rev.JPG) 

Title: Re: Conder Token, Middlesex DH 860, Shepherd/Stag
Post by: coinsarefun on November 16, 2009, 08:38:08 PM

Quote from: Conderluva on November 16, 2009, 08:35:08 PM

Here's a fairly new acquisition. Buck 7c in 'as fine as they come' condition. I'm very satisfied with this one.
(http://condertokens.net/images/Buck7c-obv.JPG)(http://condertokens.net/images/Buck7c-rev.JPG)

I like this one as well as your avatar ;D :ThumbsUp;

Title: Conder Token, Middlesex DH 860, Shepherd/Stag.
Post by: BCNumismatics on November 17, 2009, 01:53:31 AM

Stefanie,
  The reverse of that one reminds me of the reverse design of some of the American Civil War 1c. currency tokens.

I presume that the obverse depicts King George III.

Aidan.

Title: Re: Conder Token, Middlesex DH 860, Shepherd/Stag.
Post by: coinsarefun on November 17, 2009, 02:17:39 AM

Quote from: BCNumismatics on November 17, 2009, 01:53:31 AM

Stefanie,
  The reverse of that one reminds me of the reverse design of some of the American Civil War 1c. currency tokens.

I presume that the obverse depicts King George III.

Aidan.

I agree it is reminiscent of one of the CWT's.  :)

Title: Re: Conder Token, Middlesex DH 860, Shepherd/Stag
Post by: Conderluva on November 17, 2009, 04:58:04 AM

Quote

I presume that the obverse depicts King George III.

The date on this piece is misleading...on the obverse is William III.

Thanks for the compliments on the avatar Stephanie! 
I thought it came out looking rather donny darko, lol.

Title: Conder Token, Middlesex DH 860, Shepherd/Stag.
Post by: BCNumismatics on November 17, 2009, 05:18:57 AM

You are right about the obverse depicting King William III of England/II of Scotland.

The style looks like a 'Cartwheel' coin from King George III's reign.

Aidan.