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Title: 1794Lankcashire D&H 58
Post by: coinsarefun on December 04, 2009, 03:20:26 PM
New one just arrived this morning

1794Lankcashire D&H 58

The Lancashire Halfpenny was engraved by Noël-Alexandre Ponthon and struck at the Soho Mint in Birmingham
on copper supplied by the customer, Daniel Eccleston.
The charges made by Matthew Boulton for the services of his mint included five guineas for the provision of dies,
as well as £51 17s 6d for striking and packing slightly over a ton of copper,
resulting in an estimated mintage of 109,247 tokens.



(http://coinsarefun.com/forum/MGalleryItem.php?id=438) 
Title: Re: 1794Lankcashire D&H 58
Post by: Zantetsuken on December 04, 2009, 06:25:59 PM
Very nice. I especially like the tall-ship on the reverse.
Title: Re: 1794Lankcashire D&H 58
Post by: Larry on December 04, 2009, 06:33:07 PM
It's an interesting piece and the information you've provided is great.  I like the plow as well as the ship.

The design seems to include some of Boulton's anti-counterfeiting measures employed on the cartwheel coins of 1797.  Such pieces were struck using steam-powered coin presses, so I am presuming that this was similarly struck and was an early issue for the new steam technology.  It provided a long run which would have been good for experimentation and proving the technique.

I don't know which were the first tokens struck with steam, but this issue may have been close, if not the first.
Title: Re: 1794Lankcashire D&H 58
Post by: coinsarefun on December 04, 2009, 07:16:46 PM
It's an interesting piece and the information you've provided is great.  I like the plow as well as the ship.

The design seems to include some of Boulton's anti-counterfeiting measures employed on the cartwheel coins of 1797.  Such pieces were struck using steam-powered coin presses, so I am presuming that this was similarly struck and was an early issue for the new steam technology.  It provided a long run which would have been good for experimentation and proving the technique.

I don't know which were the first tokens struck with steam, but this issue may have been close, if not the first.




Larry, this is where I found the info on it http://www.numsoc.net/eccleston.html (http://www.numsoc.net/eccleston.html)
Title: Lancashire 1794 D&H 58.
Post by: BCNumismatics on December 04, 2009, 07:52:22 PM
Stefanie,
  That is one amazing coin that you have got there.

I've got one of these,but not as nice as that though.

You can find some more information here; http://www.sohomint.info (http://www.sohomint.info) .

Aidan.
Title: Re: Soho Mint and Steam-Powered Coin Presses
Post by: Larry on December 04, 2009, 09:22:52 PM
Thanks, Aidan...

The Soho Mint website states that from its beginning in 1789 all tokens were struck with coin presses powered by steam engines.  Boulton and Watt also produced steam engines next door at the Soho Manufactory.

I'll be sure to read all of the information on the website before continuing my reading of The Industrialization of Money.  The website seems to represent a good synopsis.
Title: Re: 1794Lankcashire D&H 58
Post by: FilthyBroke on December 05, 2009, 01:23:45 PM
Cool design, and I really like the cartwheel rim. Nice one, Stefanie! :)
Title: Re: 1794Lankcashire D&H 58
Post by: coinsarefun on December 05, 2009, 03:07:59 PM
Cool design, and I really like the cartwheel rim. Nice one, Stefanie! :)






I love that design as well. It also has ships on the reverse which Lotsoluck will want :D
But he can want.......................... ;)
Title: Re: 1794Lankcashire D&H 58
Post by: regandon on December 05, 2009, 03:42:35 PM
Nice one Stefanie  :ThumbsUp; Because of you, I'm starting to take interest in these.
Title: Re: 1794Lankcashire D&H 58
Post by: walmann on December 06, 2009, 12:27:02 PM
That plow in front of the ship really makes for one intriguing design.

Very nice.