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US Coins, World Coins, and More => World and Ancient Coins, Conder tokens and medals => Topic started by: coinsarefun on June 27, 2009, 06:03:18 AM
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Here are a couple of Russian and related coins from my collection.
(http://i706.photobucket.com/albums/ww65/samuraisedge/Siberia10Kopek1777.jpg)
SIBERIA~10 Kopek 1777
(http://i706.photobucket.com/albums/ww65/samuraisedge/MoldaviaWallachia2Para3Kopek1773-1.jpg)
MOLDAVIA & WALLACHIA~2 Para/3 Kopek 1773
Even though the Siberian coin has a flan flaw and the Moldavian coin had been previously mounted, these coins are in exceptional condition (IMO). Alot of these are found in poor or mediocre condition.
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Beautiful coins Zantetsuken, thanks for sharing them with us and look foward
to seeing more.
Russian coins are one of my most favorites ;D
And, welcome to the boards!
Stefanie
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A few of my latest additions are
(http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u312/coinarefun/Russian%20and%20Hungarian%20Sets/62fcd223.jpg)
(http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u312/coinarefun/Russian%20and%20Hungarian%20Sets/e0953e70.jpg)
and who wouldn't love this big old hunk of copper :)
(http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u312/coinarefun/Russian%20and%20Hungarian%20Sets/d1be35a8.jpg)
a smaller but still very pretty
(http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u312/coinarefun/Russian%20and%20Hungarian%20Sets/b3bd9419.jpg)
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Thanks Stefanie, I'm glad you like them. You have some very nice specimens too. Here are few more. While not in top grade like the previous list, they are not very easy to come by.
(http://i706.photobucket.com/albums/ww65/samuraisedge/RussiaNovgorodARDenga1447-1448AD.jpg)
NOVGOROD (REPUBLIC)~AR Denga 1447-1478 AD
(http://i706.photobucket.com/albums/ww65/samuraisedge/Georgia2Abazi1816.jpg)
GEORGIA (VASSAL)~2 Abazi 1816
(http://i706.photobucket.com/albums/ww65/samuraisedge/Armavir5Ruble1918.jpg)
ARMAVIR~5 Ruble 1918
(http://i706.photobucket.com/albums/ww65/samuraisedge/KhwarezmSPR500Ruble1340AH1922AD.jpg)
KHWAREZM SOVIET PEOPLES REPUBLIC~500 Ruble 1340 AH/1922 AD
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This one rocks!!!
(http://coinsarefun.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=8.0;attach=25;image)
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Thanks! Actually, I was quite impressed with the quality when I first got this one. If your familiar with wire coins, they are usually very hard to find in high grade. Most of them are poorly struck, poorly centered or both. As a result they are very difficult if not impossible to ID. Also, this is larger than average for a wire coin (15 mm Length X 10 MM Width). Most are 10 mm or less. Here is another nice example. This is a wire Kopek issued under Tsar: Mikhail Fedorovich Romanov 1613-1645.
RUSSIA (MUSCOVY)~AR Kopek 1613-1645
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Here's my one and only Russian coin, posted on the other thread before I saw this one specifically for Russian coins.
(http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc184/Sallythedog/DSC00219.jpg)
Zantetsuken, thanks for posting those, I hadn't seen any like that before. Neat stuff!
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Here are three coins from Khiva/Khwarezm. Khiva was conquered by the Russian Empire in 1873 and although under Russian sovereignty, Khiva had a certain degree of independence. As such, they issued numerous coins with their rulers names inscribed on them. As a result of the revolution in 1917, several territories under Russian control declared independence, and Khiva was no exception. Khiva enjoyed independent rule from 1917 until the leaders Sayyid Abdullah and Junaid Khan were forced to abdicate in 1920. Following this, the name was changed to the Khwarezm Soviet Peoples Republic. Khwarezm was once a powerful empire between the 11th and 13th centuries, and the name was temporarily restored between 1920 and 1925 under the Soviet order. In 1925, the Khwarezm republic was dissolved (along with other central Asian territories) and incorporated into the Soviet republics of Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan, and the autonomous region of Karakalpakia .
The first coin is a 5 Tenge coin from the Khanate of Khiva dated 1337 AH/1919 AD. This was one of few coins issued during the temporary period of self rule. The second is a 20 Ruble coin for the Khwarezm SPR dated 1338 AH/1920 AD. Ironically, although Russia was the first country to adopt a Soviet government, the Khwarezm SPR was the first to issue Soviet coinage. The third is 25 Ruble coin also from the Khwarezm SPR dated 1339 AH/1921 AD.
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KHIVA (KHANATE)~5 Tenge 1337 AH/1919 AD
(http://i706.photobucket.com/albums/ww65/samuraisedge/KhwarezmSoviet20Ruble1920.jpg)
KHWAREZM SOVIET PEOPLES REPUBLIC~20 Ruble 1338 AH/1920 AD
(http://i706.photobucket.com/albums/ww65/samuraisedge/KhwarezmSoviet25Ruble1339AH1921AD.jpg)
KHWAREZM SOVIET PEOPLES REPUBLIC~25 Ruble 1339 AH/1921 AD
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This series of coins mark the waining years of the Russian Empire. The first is a Coronation Ruble for Tsar: Alexander Romanov III dated 1883. The coin shows Alexander's profile with Cyrillic legend giving his title, date and location of coronation (Moscow) on the obverse side. The reverse shows Alexander crown and orb resting on a decorative cushion with the denomination in Cyrillic at the top. It was during Alexander III's reign that Vladimir Lenin's brother (also named Alexander) was tried and hanged for participating in bomb plot to kill the tsar. It was this event that radicalized Lenin in his revolutionary pursuit. The second is a Coronation Ruble for Tsar: Nikolai Romanov II dated 1896. The obverse shows Nikolai' profile with Cyrillic legend giving Nikolai's title, date and location of coronation (Moscow). The reverse shows Nikolai II's crown and orb along with scepter, sword and ribbon with the denomination in Cyrillic at the top. Nikolai reigned as the last tsar of the Russian Empire, and was the catalyst that brought about the revolution of 1917. Between the defeat suffered during the Russo-Japanese war in 1904, and Nikolai's aggressive stance during the first revolution in 1905, was the powder keg that lead to his undoing in the second revolution twelve years later. The third is a jubilee Ruble marking the 300th Anniversary of the Romanov dynasty dated 1913. The obverse shows the lesser imperial arms with the denomination written in Cyrillic and the dates 1613-1913. The reverse shows both the first tsar, Mikail Fyodorovich Romanov I (1613-1645) and Nikolai II unbeknownst at the time was the last of Romanov line. The forth is a 15 Kopek coin dated 1917. This was the last imperial issue struck before the revolution and only had only four denominations 5,10,15 and 20 kopek coins the 5 kopek coin being the rarest. Nikolai II and his family were assassinated the following year on July 17, 1918 by a Soviet regiment at Yekaterinburg (later Sverdlovsk) in the Urals.
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RUSSIAN EMPIRE~Coronation Ruble 1883
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RUSSIAN EMPIRE~Coronation Ruble 1896
(http://i706.photobucket.com/albums/ww65/samuraisedge/RussianEmpire1Ruble1913.jpg)
RUSSIAN EMPIRE~1 Ruble 1913
(http://i706.photobucket.com/albums/ww65/samuraisedge/RussianEmpire15Kopek1917.jpg)
RUSSIAN EMPIRE~15 Kopek 1917
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That was a beautiful explanation of the Romanov period.
I have been looking for the 300th Anniversary of the Romanov dynasty dated 1913.
They are quite expensive in a high grade and last Summer they were going for
big dollars on eBay. A few were toned, like I like them and was outbid on
each and every one.
Thanks Zantetsuken for the images and explanations !
Stefanie
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Here is my latest aquisition that I picked up for $80. This is a 3 Ruble coin (Type 2) from Armavir 1918. These are very hard to find in any denomination or any grade.
(http://i706.photobucket.com/albums/ww65/samuraisedge/Armavir3RubleType11918.jpg)
ARMAVIR (MUNICIPAL)~3 Ruble <Type 2> 1918
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Is there a Russian coin like this but made in 1770?
If so is it a 5 or 10 Kopek? Or both?
(http://i706.photobucket.com/albums/ww65/samuraisedge/Siberia10Kopek1777.jpg)
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Is there a Russian coin like this but made in 1770?
If so is it a 5 or 10 Kopek? Or both?
(http://i706.photobucket.com/albums/ww65/samuraisedge/Siberia10Kopek1777.jpg)
Hi Stefanie. I checked my Rylov/Sobolin catalog, and it showed the following details. There a 10 Kopek coin that was struck for one year only in 1796 and the obverse shows Catherine II intials with a crown similar to the seal on the Siberian coins on the obverse. The reverse showed the number '10' and denomination in Cyrillic text and the date. I don't know the dimensions of this specimen. The Siberian 10 Kopek is 46 mm in diameter and 5 mm thick and was struck in 1764 and 1766-1781.
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Is there a Russian coin like this but made in 1770?
If so is it a 5 or 10 Kopek? Or both?
(http://i706.photobucket.com/albums/ww65/samuraisedge/Siberia10Kopek1777.jpg)
Hi Stefanie. I checked my Rylov/Sobolin catalog, and it showed the following details. There a 10 Kopek coin that was struck for one year only in 1796 and the obverse shows Catherine II intials with a crown similar to the seal on the Siberian coins on the obverse. The reverse showed the number '10' and denomination in Cyrillic text and the date. I don't know the dimensions of this specimen. The Siberian 10 Kopek is 46 mm in diameter and 5 mm thick and was struck in 1764 and 1766-1781.
Thanks, I saw a Kopek exactly like this one but different year (1770)
But not as nice as your example and he wanted $350 which seamed high to me.
It was fine at best. Do you feel that his asking price of $350 was high?
Maybe 1770 has a smaller mintage?
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Thanks, I saw a Kopek exactly like this one but different year (1770)
But not as nice as your example and he wanted $350 which seamed high to me.
It was fine at best. Do you feel that his asking price of $350 was high?
Maybe 1770 has a smaller mintage?
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I'm not sure. I'd would have to see the coin in order to know. You have to be careful, because there are alot of fakes and forgeries of Russian coins especially the higher denomination pieces. I'm not saying that the coin that your talking about is fake, but you need to be careful none the less. The silver Ruble coins from the 18th century are among the most notorious for being counterfeited. But there are other coins as well, Armavir, Siberia etc.. In either case, Russian coins had skyrocketed in price since I started collecting them, but the prices had moderated a little due to the market. I hope this helped a little.
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Thanks, I saw a Kopek exactly like this one but different year (1770)
But not as nice as your example and he wanted $350 which seamed high to me.
It was fine at best. Do you feel that his asking price of $350 was high?
Maybe 1770 has a smaller mintage?
I'm not sure. I'd would have to see the coin in order to know. You have to be careful, because there are alot of fakes and forgeries of Russian coins especially the higher denomination pieces. I'm not saying that the coin that your talking about is fake, but you need to be careful none the less. The silver Ruble coins from the 18th century are among the most notorious for being counterfeited. But there are other coins as well, Armavir, Siberia etc.. In either case, Russian coins had skyrocketed in price since I started collecting them, but the prices had moderated a little due to the market. I hope this helped a little.
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Thanks :)
I think I will wait until one come up at auction and is on plastic ;)
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Here's a nice piece that I picked up last year. This is a 5 Gold Ruble coin from the RUSSIAN EMPIRE 1898. It was issued two years into Tsar: Nikolai II's reign.
(http://i706.photobucket.com/albums/ww65/samuraisedge/RussianEmpire5Ruble1898.jpg)
RUSSIAN EMPIRE~5 Ruble 1898