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Advanced Collectors Coins
« on: August 10, 2009, 06:13:30 PM »
These is the realm of the low mintage and most sought after super coins.
This small article is on World Coins.

Quite some time ago when I was just getting into collecting. I was always amazed at the coins that were never within my means. So, I write about them. Most collectors do not know that there were coins in circulation that were as large as 100mm being minted in Germany. That’s correct, 100mm. The design work on these coins are amazing. The Thalers (Taler) in circulation during the 17th and 18th century were not small coins by any means (40+mm). And, some of the Thalers from this time period fall into that super coin category. There are a small number of books wrote on these coins (most in German), and are of great value to own, as a good book is a must. If you can not afford these coins, at lest find on book on them if you’re a world coin collector.
These coins are collected by investors and coin collectors alike. Anyone that buy’s one of these super coins, will never have to worry about ever thinking if they made a bad choice. Now, there are many fakes on the market. Only buy one that’s has been looked at by an advanced collector, or that has been graded by a well trusted TPGS. I would recommend PCGS, NGC and ANACS only. As these companies have a very good knowledge base on these coins. I will say also, that I’ve never seen one of the 100mm Thalers in a slab.

On the other end of the spectrum, there is what I would call a series of coins that are super coins in there own right. These are my all time favorites, known as the Swiss Shooting Thalers of the mid to late 1800’s. The German Shooting Thalers from the same time period will also fit within this category. While these coins are more sought after by advanced collectors, these coins are affordable for the beginning collector that can spend $400 to $5,000+ dollars on one in mint state 65 and better. The mintage figures for these very sought after coins are from 1,000 to 30,000 pieces, and are not easy to find in MS-65 and above. The reason being, is that they are bought up very fast when one does hit the market. The other good thing I should mention, is do not overlook buying one in AU,($250 to $1,000) as the prices on these Shooting Thalers do not go down. The Shooting Thaler is a sleeper coin that the Advanced collectors have known about for some time. Now is the time to jump in and get a few while you can before the prices are out of reach.



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Re: Advanced Collectors Coins
« Reply #1 on: August 11, 2009, 09:28:33 PM »
Wow, awesome write up and 100mm!!!! holey cow that must have been some interesting pocket change. A person could feel rich carrying around that much weight in a single coin. :D


I never knew these existed and now very interested in them.
I'm going to go on a quest to get one,Thanks.



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Re: Advanced Collectors Coins
« Reply #2 on: November 01, 2009, 09:38:09 PM »
You dont see these except in the hands of pros. I have this page bookmarked.

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Re: Advanced Collectors Coins
« Reply #3 on: November 01, 2009, 11:36:29 PM »
100 mm? Yikes!!! ??? You'd probably herniate yourself if you carried one of these in your pocket. Or at the very least have your pants fall down.  ;D All kidding aside, that's an impressive size. The largest specimens I have are a 25 Leke proof from Albania 1968 (60 mm), and a 10 Kopek coin from Siberia 1777 (44 mm). I would love to see what a 100 mm specimen looks like. Thanks for the info 'regandon'.

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Re: Advanced Collectors Coins
« Reply #4 on: November 02, 2009, 06:32:58 AM »
These large Talers have some very beautiful design work (Art work) on them. What I find very interesting, is that a coin 100mm in size is close to 4inches. This size gave the engraver a metal canvas to work on. Some of the designs are just outstanding. When you have one in your hand,..be it your first time or your thousandth time, you never want to put it down.
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Re: Advanced Collectors Coins
« Reply #5 on: November 02, 2009, 09:13:46 AM »
These large Talers have some very beautiful design work (Art work) on them. What I find very interesting, is that a coin 100mm in size is close to 4inches. This size gave the engraver a metal canvas to work on. Some of the designs are just outstanding. When you have one in your hand,..be it your first time or your thousandth time, you never want to put it down.

Very true. Because of the planchet size, the designer has more options at their disposal and thus can add more detail.  For example, this is the 60 mm Albanian coin I was mentioning in the last post. The detail on the reverse is beautiful with the sabre dancers, drummer, and mountains in the backdrop. I can only imagine how elaborate the design would be on 100 mm planchet.



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Re: Advanced Collectors Coins
« Reply #6 on: November 02, 2009, 04:11:13 PM »
Very nicw coin and I do like the rev. Here is one of my favorite German commemoratives with a large planchet.
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Re: Advanced Collectors Coins
« Reply #7 on: November 02, 2009, 06:20:16 PM »
Very nicw coin and I do like the rev. Here is one of my favorite German commemoratives with a large planchet.

Yours is nice too, as always. These coins are always beautiful, and way more interesting than some of the coins made today. Too bad they don't try to put some more imagination into the contemporary pieces.

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Re: Advanced Collectors Coins
« Reply #8 on: December 01, 2009, 05:05:51 PM »
These is the realm of the low mintage and most sought after super coins.
This small article is on World Coins.

Quite some time ago when I was just getting into collecting. I was always amazed at the coins that were never within my means. So, I write about them. Most collectors do not know that there were coins in circulation that were as large as 100mm being minted in Germany. That’s correct, 100mm. The design work on these coins are amazing. The Thalers (Taler) in circulation during the 17th and 18th century were not small coins by any means (40+mm). And, some of the Thalers from this time period fall into that super coin category. There are a small number of books wrote on these coins (most in German), and are of great value to own, as a good book is a must. If you can not afford these coins, at lest find on book on them if you’re a world coin collector.
These coins are collected by investors and coin collectors alike. Anyone that buy’s one of these super coins, will never have to worry about ever thinking if they made a bad choice. Now, there are many fakes on the market. Only buy one that’s has been looked at by an advanced collector, or that has been graded by a well trusted TPGS. I would recommend PCGS, NGC and ANACS only. As these companies have a very good knowledge base on these coins. I will say also, that I’ve never seen one of the 100mm Thalers in a slab.

On the other end of the spectrum, there is what I would call a series of coins that are super coins in there own right. These are my all time favorites, known as the Swiss Shooting Thalers of the mid to late 1800’s. The German Shooting Thalers from the same time period will also fit within this category. While these coins are more sought after by advanced collectors, these coins are affordable for the beginning collector that can spend $400 to $5,000+ dollars on one in mint state 65 and better. The mintage figures for these very sought after coins are from 1,000 to 30,000 pieces, and are not easy to find in MS-65 and above. The reason being, is that they are bought up very fast when one does hit the market. The other good thing I should mention, is do not overlook buying one in AU,($250 to $1,000) as the prices on these Shooting Thalers do not go down. The Shooting Thaler is a sleeper coin that the Advanced collectors have known about for some time. Now is the time to jump in and get a few while you can before the prices are out of reach.









I just received this month's edition of the ANA's Numismatist and they had this great article
in it that I thought to share :)





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Re: Advanced Collectors Coins
« Reply #9 on: December 01, 2009, 06:16:15 PM »
The numistmatist is one of my favorite Mag's. The 4Taler I have which is like the coin in this article, is 75mm. These coins are true master pieces on metal.
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