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US Coins, World Coins, and More => World and Ancient Coins, Conder tokens and medals => Topic started by: Larry on October 09, 2010, 08:18:48 AM

Title: 1797 Great Britain, Cartwheel Two Pence
Post by: Larry on October 09, 2010, 08:18:48 AM


Here's my tuppence, official regal coinage struck by Matthew Boulton at Soho Mint.  : )


(http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g254/Larrymo123/after%208-9-09/1797CartwheelTwoPencewithEdge1024.jpg)

(http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g254/Larrymo123/after%208-9-09/1797TWoPenceOBV900-1.jpg)

(http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g254/Larrymo123/after%208-9-09/1797TWoPenceREV900-1.jpg)



It has highly reflective fields.

(http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g254/Larrymo123/after%208-9-09/SailboatonCartwheelnumismatograph-1.jpg)





Title: Re: 1797 Great Britain, Cartwheel Two Pence
Post by: Conderluva on October 09, 2010, 09:54:59 AM
That last shot is fantastic!!!!!!!  The lighting and composition are perfect!  It looks like a professionally created graphic for use as part of an advertisement in a magazine.  Nice job!
Title: Re: 1797 Great Britain, Cartwheel Two Pence
Post by: coinsarefun on October 09, 2010, 12:47:00 PM
Gosh I really love those images WOW:

And the Conder ain't so bad either :LOL; :Beatingheart;
Title: Re: 1797 Great Britain, Cartwheel Two Pence
Post by: Larry on October 19, 2010, 01:41:05 AM


I found a mint state example of the two pence cartwheel on wildwinds.com.
A couple of circulated examples can be found there as well.

http://www.wildwinds.com/coins/SE/SE3776.html (http://www.wildwinds.com/coins/SE/SE3776.html)


The auction description below provides greater insight into the history of the cartwheel 'tuppence,'
and another reason why edges of circulated examples are generally afflicted with edge problems
such as bumps, dings or fractures.

Sale 31: The Pre-Long Beach Auction May 30 - June 1, 2005
           
            Lot 2480Great Britain. Copper Twopence, 1797. George III. Soho Mint.
            S-3776. The classic "cartwheel" and largest copper coin ever issued
            by Great Britain. Never, before the innovations of Boulton and Watt
            at their Soho Mint in Birmingham, had anyone managed to strike such
            a massive coin of nearly pure copper, inside a collar that contained
            the coin and in effect created an anti-counterfeiting masterpiece.
            Russia's big coppers come to mind as similar coins, of the same era,
            but they are crude by comparison, with far different and less
            effective edges. This coin is quite literally the ultimate
            numismatic expression of the triumph in metal of the Industrial
            Revolution in England. It was struck just one year in this style
            (though in 1805 patterns were struck of the so-called Third Issue).
            Each year, this coin has grown in popularity worldwide for its
            distinctive qualities and visual appeal. It was made in huge
            numbers, by the ton, and continued in circulation through the
            Victorian Era, when it was in use as "bus fare"; piles were shoveled
            each day from trolley cars, accounting for the big edge and surface
            marks seen on most circulated examples. This use or circulation
            continued for at least a century, and high-grade coins are today
            fairly rare. This one is sensibly rated by NGC as a 63 but
            underestimated by them for its luster (NGC insert only; coin too
            large for slabbing, so it is not in plastic). It's a lovely Choice
            Red & Brown Uncirculated, with more than the usual quotient of mint
            red luster remaining, though it's mostly medium brown. Sharp strike.
            Exceptional. Coins of this caliber, with this much red luster, have
            been bringing more than our top estimate in recent auctions,
            sometimes a lot more. NGC graded MS-63 Brown.
            Estimated Value $850-1,000.

            Provenance: The Cheshire Collection.
             Realized $2,100
Title: Re: 1797 Great Britain, Cartwheel Two Pence
Post by: Deagle74 on October 19, 2010, 02:43:26 AM
Larry thanks for sharing that interesting info- another beautiful example of this coin. What a reverse - the Sea looks just so vivid  :Beatingheart;

Bye, Rok
Title: Great Britain 1797 Cartwheel 2 Pence.
Post by: BCNumismatics on October 20, 2010, 06:06:15 PM
Larry,
  That is a very nice coin that you have got there.

These usually turn up pretty worn & nicked.

Aidan.