One of those notes I bought when I was a teenager who spent all of his money on coins and banknotes and nothing else - such a dork then...

Now I like this because of the engraving on the reverse with the water pump and the fountains:





Shortly after this note was issued by the city, New York was occupied by the British and would be for the most of the rest of the war.

Ok, guys - this is probably a dumb newbie question, but are these individuually signed and numbered ('cause they look hand-signed) or is the signature printed on them?

Ok, guys - this is probably a dumb newbie question, but are these individuually signed and numbered ('cause they look hand-signed) or is the signature printed on them?

It's not a dumb question, because I'm not sure myself. My guess is that they are a hand signed. The serial # and signature look like they were written with a quill pen. Also the ink color looks different from the pattern of the note, and the strokes look too uneven especially on the mint masters signature. Again this is just a guess. Anyone who has more information, please chime in.

~Daniel

Printed signatures on banknotes only started making an appearance in the 1860's when they were less a counterfeiting deterrent - before then hand signed notes were most prevalent.  Hand signing of paper money largely disappeared by the early 20th century - but lasted until the 1960s in Northern Ireland.

Printed signatures on banknotes only started making an appearance in the 1860's when they were less a counterfeiting deterrent - before then hand signed notes were most prevalent.  Hand signing of paper money largely disappeared by the early 20th century - but lasted until the 1960s in Northern Ireland.

Wow! That's much later than I would have thought. Interesting, thanks for sharing.

~Daniel

Quote from: Scottishmoney on 06 Feb, 2010 13:08

Printed signatures on banknotes only started making an appearance in the 1860's when they were less a counterfeiting deterrent - before then hand signed notes were most prevalent.  Hand signing of paper money largely disappeared by the early 20th century - but lasted until the 1960s in Northern Ireland.

Wow! That's much later than I would have thought. Interesting, thanks for sharing.

~Daniel

Yeah, this is good info to know, thanks.

The last handsigned notes in the USA were the Series 1902-1908 Nationals that were issued by National Banks on up through 1927, of course some were rubber stamp signatures, a few printed, but most were handsigned by the bank officers:

The last handsigned notes in the USA were the Series 1902-1908 Nationals that were issued by National Banks on up through 1927, of course some were rubber stamp signatures, a few printed, but most were handsigned by the bank officers:

Nice specimen. I didn't realize that handsigned notes were issued that late date in the U.S.. I thought they went out during the mid to late 19th century as minting methods became more sophisticated. Thanks again.

~Daniel

One of those notes I bought when I was a teenager who spent all of his money on coins and banknotes and nothing else - such a dork then...

Now I like this because of the engraving on the reverse with the water pump and the fountains:





Shortly after this note was issued by the city, New York was occupied by the British and would be for the most of the rest of the war.

David,is this amazing colonial New York 4/- note listed in either Pick or Pick Specialised?

If it isn't,then you should email some photos to Owen Linzmayer at owen@banknotenews.com so he can get it listed in his new world banknote catalogue.

As this is a colonial note,it is most definitely a British Commonwealth banknote of interest to me anyway.

Aidan.