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Conder Post.....lets see them
« on: September 23, 2010, 05:40:46 PM »





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Re: Conder Post.....lets see them
« Reply #1 on: September 24, 2010, 07:49:47 PM »
Man, I really hate all the garbage that flickr now stuffs into the links.  Can't a guy just get some code to show a pic without all the BS?  This was a Bill McKivor bargain bin token.....I was very happy for only 25 buckeroos.   ][/url]
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Re: Conder Post.....lets see them
« Reply #2 on: September 24, 2010, 08:22:45 PM »
"Conders" -- British Provincials -- solved a critical problem and did so via the free market in a competitive context.  The tokens celebrated Enlightenment themes and commercial culture. I recommend highly: Good Money: Birmingham Button Makers, the Royal Mint, and the Beginnings of Modern Coinage, 1775-1821 by George Anthony Selgin.

Newton: Middlesex, D&H 1053; 10.21 grams; edge: "PAYABLE IN LONDON BRISTOL & LANCASTER"

Spaniel: Middlesex, D&H750; 12.3 grams;
Obv: "MUCH GRATITUDE BRINGS SERVITUDE" (Spaniel trotting left)
Rev: "WE WERE BORN FREE AND WILL NEVER DIE SLAVES" (Caduceus topped with Crown, Pileus at base.)
edge:"SPINCK * DEALER * IN * COINS * LONDON"
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Re: Conder Post.....lets see them
« Reply #3 on: September 25, 2010, 05:02:41 AM »
Man, I really hate all the garbage that flickr now stuffs into the links.  Can't a guy just get some code to show a pic without all the BS?  This was a Bill McKivor bargain bin token.....I was very happy for only 25 buckeroos.   ][/url]





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Re: Conder Post.....lets see them
« Reply #4 on: September 25, 2010, 09:47:50 AM »
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You do know that you can have unlimted store here
on our site eith no hassles, one of the benefits of being a member :)

Thanks, will have to do some image migrating from flickr....don't have the original files anymore.  I also have to second MMarotta's recommendation of George Selgin's book Good Money.  It is an excellent  resource for those interested in Conders!

This one's a repeat but it's among my favs so...
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Re: Conder Post.....lets see them
« Reply #5 on: September 25, 2010, 12:17:31 PM »
Norfolk Norwich
"More Trade and Fewer Taxes"
"Prosperity to Old England"
edge: "Richard Tinmore & Son" (?)
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D&H 23b (no date)
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Conder post.....lets see them.
« Reply #6 on: September 25, 2010, 11:08:11 PM »
Those are very nice coins that you have got there.

Keep them coming please!

Aidan.

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Admiral Howe and the Glorious 1st of June
« Reply #7 on: September 28, 2010, 04:25:12 PM »
Hampshire: D&H 30.A.113: "Earl Howe Wooden Walls" Half Penny.
Edge: "Payable in Lancaster London or Bristol."


Admiral Richard Howe was the middle of three who served with high honor.  His older brother, George was killed at Ticonderoga in the French-Indian Wars.  As the Revolution opened, he and his younger brother, William, were appointed to negotiate with the colonists but his sympathies with them displeased the crown. 
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On the outbreak of the War of the First Coalition against France in 1793, he was again given command of the Channel fleet. The following year would be the greatest of his career, including the victory of the "Glorious First of June".[1] Although now nearly seventy years old, Howe displayed a tactical originality uncommon in such a veteran. Howe's active service ended after the campaign, but he continued to hold nominal command of the Channel Fleet by the king's decree.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Howe,_1st_Earl_Howe

During the battle, Howe defied naval convention by ordering his fleet to turn towards the French and for each of his vessels to rake and engage their immediate opponent. This unexpected order was not understood by all of his captains, and as a result his attack was more piecemeal than he intended. Nevertheless, his ships inflicted a severe tactical defeat on the French fleet. ... In the immediate aftermath both sides claimed victory and the outcome of the battle was seized upon by the press of both nations as a demonstration of the prowess and bravery of their respective navies. 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glorious_First_of_June

"The Wooden Walls" is an allusion to the Athenian fleet that defeated the Persians at Salamis.  Before the second Persian invasion, Themistocles had argued for the building of a navy.  When the Delphic Oracle predicted that Athens would be saved by "wooden walls" Themistocles interpreted this to indicate the ships.  (The Spartans argued for a wall across the Isthmus of Corinth.) 



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Re: Conder Post.....lets see them
« Reply #8 on: September 28, 2010, 10:13:06 PM »

Here's a scarce to rare Conder Token, a threepence token.
This is one of the finest known examples remaining.

I found out that 'marle,' rather than a type of peat as I suspected,
is actually a sedimentary rock or soil made up of calcium and lime. 
It was used extensively as a fertilizer.






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I have collected U.S coins for many years, and then Civil War Tokens, but am now actively building a collection of Conder Tokens,
the coins that made the Industrial Revolution a whopping success. : )

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« Reply #9 on: September 28, 2010, 10:26:32 PM »
Larry,
 Those are very nice coins,especially the 3d. one.

The only 3d. that occasionally turns up is the Birmingham Workhouse 3d. dated 1813,of which I have got 2 examples of.One is misaligned.

Aidan.