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Very rare Condor token dilemma
« on: February 23, 2011, 02:23:35 AM »
What do think about the look of this one?
It's an RRR which translates into 10 or less know.
I wanted a better grade but have no idea when another will come along
I say it's grade is  xf
What would you do
Buy it or wait till maybe one day I will come across another  :smiley-signs002:


« Last Edit: March 09, 2011, 02:22:37 AM by coinsarefun »



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Re: Very rare Condor token delima.
« Reply #1 on: February 23, 2011, 07:21:56 AM »
I don't know anything about Conder tokens, but that is one heck of a die crack on it. Is that why it is considered so rare, or is it because of the mintage?

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Re: Very rare Condor token delima.
« Reply #2 on: February 23, 2011, 10:34:43 AM »

I don't know anything about Conder tokens, but that is one heck of a die crack on it. Is that why it is considered so rare, or is it because of the mintage?

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Re: Very rare Condor token delima.
« Reply #3 on: February 23, 2011, 01:43:52 PM »
What an odd design!  I think the topper is that inpaled head "thing", very strange.  Yet I keep looking.... :ThumbsUp;

As to your question, it would depend on how many come available and how often, I guess.  Oh, and how much of course.  I tend to buy and then hope for the upgrade, that way if it never surfaces, I'll still have my own example.
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Re: Very rare Condor token delima.
« Reply #4 on: February 23, 2011, 06:13:33 PM »
What an odd design!  I think the topper is that inpaled head "thing", very strange.  Yet I keep looking.... :ThumbsUp;

As to your question, it would depend on how many come available and how often, I guess.  Oh, and how much of course.  I tend to buy and then hope for the upgrade, that way if it never surfaces, I'll still have my own example.



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But it goes so well with this one ;)




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Re: Very rare Condor token delima.
« Reply #5 on: February 26, 2011, 01:51:54 PM »
Yes, EF I suppose, but not nearly as nice as your farthing.

Personally, I'd seek a better example, even if not such a rare variety.

Your collection usually is nicer looking, for sure.

I am not too big on rarity.

I'd ask conderluva.  : )
I have collected U.S coins for many years, and then Civil War Tokens, but am now actively building a collection of Conder Tokens,
the coins that made the Industrial Revolution a whopping success. : )

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Re: Very rare Condor token delima.
« Reply #6 on: February 26, 2011, 02:00:46 PM »
Yeah, I forgot she had that other (much higher grade) example that looks very similar.  Now that one is beautiful!   I like the design, but it would depend on the price if I was to pick up the new one.
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Re: Very rare Condor token delima.
« Reply #7 on: March 01, 2011, 09:31:26 PM »
I wanted to let everyone know that I decided to keep this one.
I thought about and decided that it's really cool to own something
that only 10 or less are known ;)

Thanks everyone for your input!

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Dedilemmanated
« Reply #8 on: March 09, 2011, 01:58:43 AM »

NOT A DILEMMA ANYMORE, STEF.  I guess you've been dedilemmanated.


Interesting that you kept it; I'm not surprised.
Many collectors seek rarity.

In Conders, I see four types of rarity...

1. Design rarity, where only one or a few pieces exist with a particular design.
Design rarity is great but I prefer more common tokens, ones that other collectors, after viewing my images, might seek to own a similar example,
2.  Mulings bearing particular design(s).
3.  Edge rarity.  Lettered, milled left or right, engrailed, even a few scalloped Conder Token edges exist.
Only if I were attempting to collect all of the edge variations for a particular die pairing would I be excited about the edges,
other than preferring pristine details of whatever edge design.  But the edges are very interesting to me, like both sides.
This type of rarity holds little interest for me. 
I'd prefer to have a common token with the same design.  I'd like it to be in stunning condition but often accept less.
4. Condition rarity, aka eye appeal.  Fabulous eye appeal and awesome grades sometimes bring more than numerical rarities. 
Some toned examples of coins and tokens bring 2-30 times book value when sold, carrying their value far beyond their numerical rarity.

I had to check the spelling of dilemma and ran across this definition.  In the Usage section, it sounds like they were talking about Bill McKivor.  LOL



I tend to avoid dillemae.

« Last Edit: March 09, 2011, 02:21:42 AM by Larry »
I have collected U.S coins for many years, and then Civil War Tokens, but am now actively building a collection of Conder Tokens,
the coins that made the Industrial Revolution a whopping success. : )

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Re: Dedilemmanated
« Reply #9 on: March 09, 2011, 02:24:54 AM »

NOT A DILEMMA ANYMORE, STEF.  I guess you've been dedilemmanated.


Interesting that you kept it; I'm not surprised.
Many collectors seek rarity.

In Conders, I see four types of rarity...

1. Design rarity, where only one or a few pieces exist with a particular design.
Design rarity is great but I prefer more common tokens, ones that other collectors, after viewing my images, might seek to own a similar example,
2.  Mulings bearing particular design(s).
3.  Edge rarity.  Lettered, milled left or right, engrailed, even a few scalloped Conder Token edges exist.
Only if I were attempting to collect all of the edge variations for a particular die pairing would I be excited about the edges,
other than preferring pristine details of whatever edge design.  But the edges are very interesting to me, like both sides.
This type of rarity holds little interest for me. 
I'd prefer to have a common token with the same design.  I'd like it to be in stunning condition but often accept less.
4. Condition rarity, aka eye appeal.  Fabulous eye appeal and awesome grades sometimes bring more than numerical rarities. 
Some toned examples of coins and tokens bring 2-30 times book value when sold, carrying their value far beyond their numerical rarity.

I had to check the spelling of dilemma and ran across this definition.  In the Usage section, it sounds like they were talking about Bill McKivor.  LOL



I tend to avoid dillemae.



Good point Larry. Now I am wondering again, thanks :smack; :0 :D
And thanks for the spelling correction, never took notice ;)