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Title: 1863 Bronze Three Cent Pattern Restrike by U.S. Mint
Post by: Larry on September 08, 2009, 05:02:49 AM

This is the obverse of the Finest Known example of a rare pattern. With only about 36 graded, it is currently Pop. 1.

I'll add more images later, but first I post this for enthusiasts of Braided Hair large cents, my first love among U.S. coins.

I think you will like its reverse as well.  ; )

(http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g254/Larrymo123/after%208-9-09/WalnutWoodgrainFramedbbb1024.jpg)

Title: Re: You may not recognize this pattern. ; )
Post by: BCNumismatics on September 08, 2009, 05:08:03 AM

Larry,
  That's one very cool off-metal strike that you've got there.

Aidan.

Title: Re: You may not recognize this pattern. ; )
Post by: Larry on September 08, 2009, 04:09:11 PM

Off metal, Aidan?  What are you talking about?

Title: Re: 1863 Bronze Three Cent Pattern Restrike by U.S. Mint
Post by: BCNumismatics on September 08, 2009, 04:25:35 PM

Larry,
  This looks like it has been struck on either copper or bronze.That is why it is an off-metal strike.

If this was the currency coin,then it would be a gold coin.

Have a look at www.uspatterns.com (http://www.uspatterns.com) .

Aidan.

Title: Re: 1863 Bronze Three Cent Pattern Restrike by U.S. Mint
Post by: coinsarefun on September 08, 2009, 04:25:50 PM

WOW Larry..........she sure is beautiful
looking foward to more images.


Stefanie

Title: Re: 1863 Bronze Three Cent Pattern Restrike by U.S. Mint
Post by: BCNumismatics on September 08, 2009, 04:28:32 PM

Stefanie,
  The 3 Cents is both silver & cupro-nickel coins.The obverse looks like that of the gold $5 coin.

Aidan.

Title: Re: 1863 Bronze Three Cent Pattern Restrike by U.S. Mint
Post by: Larry on September 08, 2009, 04:46:18 PM

Aidan...

There is some good information here, and I am familiar with this pattern site.
While the article relates that some pieces were struck in aluminum, "on both
thick and thin planchets," I see no indication of this trial pattern being struck in gold, ever. 
Not for a three cent piece.

http://uspatterns.com/j319p384.html (http://uspatterns.com/j319p384.html)

Where did you get your information about gold?

Title: This is 'Pop.1'
Post by: Larry on September 08, 2009, 04:47:05 PM

It was amazing how I happened to obtain this example.  I joined the ANA and on my first visit to their website,
I saw an image labeled "Virtual Bourse."  So I clicked on it and an ad came up.  It was for a dealer.  I did not realize it, but
there were many dealers listed below, albeit with smaller ads with links to their sites. But I could only see the top one.

So I clicked on the dealer's ad photo and found his Coppers.  When I saw this pattern, I fell in love instantly.
It cost me as much as a car, but is now worth as much as a house.  ;)

This is the Finest Known example of its very limited type.

(http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g254/Larrymo123/BraidedHairPatternwithLabelFramed.jpg)

Title: Re: 1863 Bronze Three Cent Pattern Restrike by U.S. Mint
Post by: coinsarefun on September 08, 2009, 05:01:38 PM

Larry,
I love it :P..........and a green bean to boot ;D


I have always loved patterns and have been struggling on as to sell some of my collection
to start collecting patterns or Early Colonials. Its has been a very hard decision so here I am
2 years later still deciding(http://forums.collectors.com/i/expressions/smack.gif)






btw.............congrat's on the top pop!

Title: 1863 Bronze Three Cent Pattern Restrike by U.S. Mint.
Post by: BCNumismatics on September 08, 2009, 06:12:36 PM

Quote from: Larry on September 08, 2009, 04:46:18 PM

Aidan...

There is some good information here, and I am familiar with this pattern site.
While the article relates that some pieces were struck in aluminum, "on both
thick and thin planchets," I see no indication of this trial pattern being struck in gold, ever. 
Not for a three cent piece.

http://uspatterns.com/j319p384.html (http://uspatterns.com/j319p384.html)

Where did you get your information about gold?

Larry,
  I was referring to the gold $5 coin,which this obverse portrait appears on.

I never said that there were pattern 3 Cents struck in gold.

Aidan.

Title: Re: 1863 Bronze Three Cent Pattern Restrike by U.S. Mint
Post by: Larry on September 09, 2009, 01:15:29 AM

Oh.  I have not seen any gold coins with the braided hair portrait from the large cents.   ;)

Title: Re: 1863 Bronze Three Cent Pattern Restrike by U.S. Mint
Post by: BCNumismatics on September 09, 2009, 01:24:20 AM

Larry,
  The Large 1 Cent coins ceased in 1857.

I said 5 Dollars,which are gold coins.

Aidan.

Title: Re: 1863 Bronze Three Cent Pattern Restrike by U.S. Mint
Post by: Larry on September 09, 2009, 06:22:56 AM

As I said, I have never seen this design on a gold coin of any type.  ; )

You may have seen a different design in gold.  Maybe they look the same to you.  ; )

The date of large cent production has nothing to do with this coin.