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Title: The Franklin Half Dollar 1948-1963
Post by: JRocco on January 29, 2011, 09:26:50 PM
The Franklin Half is a short series that was stopped due to the loss of President Kennedy and our nations subsequent honor to him by placing him on the half dollar in 1964.
The Frankie is commonly referred to as the bald head while the Kennedy can sometimes be called the hairy head.
Here is a nice raw example.
(http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o69/JRocco1/60frank1wh-1.jpg)
(http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o69/JRocco1/60frankr1wh-2.jpg)
Title: Re: The Franklin Half Dollar 1948-1963
Post by: coinsarefun on January 29, 2011, 11:36:22 PM
Nice one :)


Can't have Frankies without a few toned ones :D

Proof

(http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u312/coinarefun/Franklins/1963.jpg)


And an uncirculated one


(http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u312/coinarefun/Franklins/6c710094.jpg)
Title: Re: The Franklin Half Dollar 1948-1963
Post by: rrantique on January 30, 2011, 09:13:46 AM
(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb187/rrantique/Picture047-3-1-1.jpg)
(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb187/rrantique/Picture002-17-1.jpg)
(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb187/rrantique/Picture017-10-2-2.jpg)
Title: Re: The Franklin Half Dollar 1948-1963
Post by: coinsarefun on January 30, 2011, 05:07:12 PM
One more Franklin proof ;)



(http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u312/coinarefun/Franklins/9b7719e6.jpg)
Title: Re: The Franklin Half Dollar 1948-1963
Post by: JRocco on February 01, 2011, 12:20:25 PM
Here is a 54 proof
(http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o69/JRocco1/1954psetobv.jpg)
(http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o69/JRocco1/1954psetrev.jpg)
Title: Re: The Franklin Half Dollar 1948-1963
Post by: coinsarefun on February 01, 2011, 02:31:09 PM
I haven't seen any Bugs Bunny's yet, so here is my contribution

The 56 BB is not as pronounced but its there

(http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u312/coinarefun/Franklins/bugsbunny029.jpg)


(http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u312/coinarefun/Franklins/bugsbunny028.jpg)
Title: Re: The Franklin Half Dollar 1948-1963
Post by: coinsarefun on February 01, 2011, 02:33:11 PM
And the Vampire Franklin ;D



(http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u312/coinarefun/Franklins/ff8181e6.jpg)

(http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u312/coinarefun/Franklins/b3859bb7.jpg)
Title: Re: The Franklin Half Dollar 1948-1963
Post by: JRocco on February 16, 2011, 05:59:37 PM
I was putting together a set of these back when PCGS was just getting started. They used to slab these without designating CAM or DCAM on the labels. Here are a couple of pics as an example of coins that would be designated something today, one is a rattler and one in an old green slab.
Someday I may send some of these back to see what they think of them today.
(http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o69/JRocco1/58frankprf.jpg)
(http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o69/JRocco1/58Frankprfr.jpg)
(http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o69/JRocco1/63frankob.jpg)
(http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o69/JRocco1/63franfrev.jpg)
Title: Re: The Franklin Half Dollar 1948-1963
Post by: coinsarefun on February 16, 2011, 08:29:15 PM
I was putting together a set of these back when PCGS was just getting started. They used to slab these without designating CAM or DCAM on the labels. Here are a couple of pics as an example of coins that would be designated something today, one is a rattler and one in an old green slab.
Someday I may send some of these back to see what they think of them today.
(http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o69/JRocco1/58frankprf.jpg)
(http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o69/JRocco1/58Frankprfr.jpg)
(http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o69/JRocco1/63frankob.jpg)
(http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o69/JRocco1/63franfrev.jpg)









That's pretty neat. I never knew back then they didn't designate Cam Or Deep Cam.
Did people buy accordingly?
Did they just pay for the grade or was there a premium for the Cam's and Deep Cam's?
Title: Re: The Franklin Half Dollar 1948-1963
Post by: JRocco on February 16, 2011, 09:37:09 PM
Hi Stef,
There was always a premium for PQ pieces.
I had a really good dealer on Long Island when I was younger and I remember telling him back in maybe the 70's that I wanted to put together a nice set of Jeff's. He asked me if I wanted full step coins or not. I didn't even know what the heck he meant. Well he explained it to me and even back then many FS Jeff's were 5 or 6 times the price for most coins and more for some. PQ pieces, raw or slabbed, always sold for a premium. Same with Frankie's and everything else for that matter.
In fact, it was a common thing back then to buy coins in old holders just to break them out and put them in albums. Back then, holders were for those not really into the hobby and those that wanted coins more for an investment or to buy and flip. I love when I hear that a nice raw coin must have problems or it wouldn't be raw. Well maybe for some but not for all.
Here is a pic of one page in my Dansco Frankie album (2 angles of the same page). Every coin in this album was cracked from either an old NGC fattie or old PCGS rattler as I put this set together around 1985. I put in proof coins where possible just for their beauty. Most of the proofs are cameos by today's standards and I believe every coin is at least gem.... and raw  :) This is an old pic by the way.
(http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o69/JRocco1/frankiepg.jpg)
(http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o69/JRocco1/frankiepage.jpg)
Title: Re: The Franklin Half Dollar 1948-1963
Post by: coinsarefun on February 16, 2011, 10:55:06 PM
Wow, that sure makes for one heck of an album :kneel:
Title: Re: The Franklin Half Dollar 1948-1963
Post by: JRocco on February 25, 2011, 09:14:41 PM
Hey Stef, I want to see a few more of your Frankies.
I know you have some beauties.
While Frankies can and do come with some amazing colors, I still like this look.
This is the way so many Frankies tend to tone on their own. I was going to crack this one
out but decided that I don't want this one to tone further. I like this look.
(http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o69/JRocco1/55fblfrankie.jpg)
(http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o69/JRocco1/55fblfrankierev.jpg)
Title: Re: The Franklin Half Dollar 1948-1963
Post by: rrantique on February 25, 2011, 09:38:33 PM
(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb187/rrantique/1sto.jpg)
(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb187/rrantique/1strf.jpg)
Title: Re: The Franklin Half Dollar 1948-1963
Post by: coinsarefun on February 25, 2011, 11:00:17 PM
Hey Stef, I want to see a few more of your Frankies.
I know you have some beauties.


I sold most if not all of my slabbed Frankies, but I still have my Capital holder.
I haven't quite finished putting the new ones in but here are a few shots.


(http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u312/coinarefun/Franklins/Franklinalbumfirstpageblackobverse.jpg)

(http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u312/coinarefun/Franklins/Franklinalbumfirstpageblackreverse.jpg)

(http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u312/coinarefun/Franklins/Franklinalbumsecondpageblackobve-2.jpg)

(http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u312/coinarefun/Franklins/Franklinalbumsecondpageblackreve-2.jpg)
Title: Re: The Franklin Half Dollar 1948-1963
Post by: coinsarefun on February 25, 2011, 11:02:41 PM
For kicks I created this wallpaper a few years back ;)




(http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u312/coinarefun/WallPapers/franklinclock.jpg)
Title: Re: The Franklin Half Dollar 1948-1963
Post by: rrantique on February 26, 2011, 06:15:12 AM
 :Beatingheart; Awesome :ThumbsUp;
Title: Re: The Franklin Half Dollar 1948-1963
Post by: coinsarefun on February 27, 2011, 10:10:02 PM
I picked  up 20 unopened proof sets and found about 4 Cameos and a few of these



(http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u312/coinarefun/3cc93629.jpg)


(http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u312/coinarefun/1bb9e7f4.jpg)


(http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u312/coinarefun/091a336a.jpg)
Title: Re: The Franklin Half Dollar 1948-1963
Post by: JRocco on March 01, 2011, 06:13:55 PM
That was one heck of a score Stef.
In 20 truly unopened sets you might get lucky and find one or two potential CAM's from that era.
Looks like you hit a jackpot.
Congrats. Are you going to send those in to PCGS?
If so please let us know how they grade.
Title: Re: The Franklin Half Dollar 1948-1963
Post by: coinsarefun on March 09, 2011, 06:40:27 PM
That was one heck of a score Stef.
In 20 truly unopened sets you might get lucky and find one or two potential CAM's from that era.
Looks like you hit a jackpot.
Congrats. Are you going to send those in to PCGS?
If so please let us know how they grade.



They were sent in last week. I will keep you posted
Title: Re: The Franklin Half Dollar 1948-1963
Post by: rrantique on March 10, 2011, 07:38:59 PM
(http://i630.photobucket.com/albums/uu29/rrantiques/P1010036-1.jpg)
Title: Re: The Franklin Half Dollar 1948-1963
Post by: JRocco on March 14, 2011, 07:07:00 PM
Here is a Type 1 1956 Frankie
(http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o69/JRocco1/56type1obv.jpg)
(http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o69/JRocco1/56type1rev1.jpg)
A quick PUP to ID the much tougher Type 1 1956 Frankie over the more common Type 2 is looking at
the reverse eagle. They used a different eagle in 56 resulting in the two Types. If you look close you will
see 4 feathers on the eagles left wing facing on the Type ! (the example on the left) vs 3 feathers on the Type 2.
You can also see the fuller well defined wing strike on the Type 2 seen in the pic on the right. All Type 1 1956 Frankies
show this weaker wing strike.
(http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o69/JRocco1/Type1and2FHD.jpg)
Title: Re: The Franklin Half Dollar 1948-1963
Post by: coinsarefun on March 14, 2011, 07:12:33 PM
Here is a Type 1 1956 Frankie
(http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o69/JRocco1/56type1obv.jpg)
(http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o69/JRocco1/56type1rev1.jpg)
A quick PUP to ID the much tougher Type 1 1956 Frankie over the more common Type 2 is looking at
the reverse eagle. They used a different eagle in 56 resulting in the two Types. If you look close you will
see 4 feathers on the eagles left wing facing on the Type ! (the example on the left) vs 3 feathers on the Type 2.
You can also see the fuller well defined wing strike on the Type 2 seen in the pic on the right. All Type 1 1956 Frankies
show this weaker wing strike.
(http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o69/JRocco1/Type1and2FHD.jpg)





Nice explanation !
One of these days I will cherry pick one...still looking :-\
Title: Re: The Franklin Half Dollar 1948-1963
Post by: coinsarefun on March 24, 2011, 12:02:14 PM
I have been thinking about submitting this one for a long time now.
Although it doesn't show in the image very well it has full bell lines and a  nice higher grade. Luster is great
Even the color is nicer in hand :)


(http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u312/coinarefun/Franklins/1bee10bd.jpg)